I've been running some Rush slip-on since I got my bike new in 09. I added some X14iED's at the beginning of the summer. A few weeks ago I picked up the HD Stage 1 AC kit. It got rid of my decel popping, but I checked my plugs and it still seems as if the bike is running somewhat lean.

I haven't heard the best reviews about the Fuelpak. The SERT is expensive as hell. I was taking a look at the Power Commander tuners. Just wondering what everyone recommends for tuners? This off season I'm planning on doing some mods to my bike, this being one of them. Thanks for the feedback.

 

I have the Power Vision tuner from Dynojet. I have found it very easy to use and you don't have to leave it installed on the bike. Just flash a new tune to the ECM and ride or use the autotune software to create a map for your mods.

 

I've had the PCV for almost two years now and love it. It's easy to play with the maps or you can take it to a tuner to dial it in. I tend to change things like pipes and AC too often but it's easy to find a canned map that's close and tweek it. Kurt

 

You could always try the XiEDs which will give you a bit richer mix than the X14iEDs.

 

I've been using the PC3 for about 3 years. I remember a night and day difference the first ride after installing it. My only complaint was that it barely fit under the seat, but I hear they fixed that with the newer PCV.

 

The X14iED is all you need. If you really want more, though, the PC V is fantastic, and easy to use.

 

TTS used to make the SERT for H-D, now they make a product called Master Tune. The software is actually priced right in line with the "self tuning" an generic map setups.

IF you do not know how to read and adjust the tables or how to perform and utilize a data log then you are looking at either a steep learning curve or a steep bill to have a shop tune it. I happen to be in the "more time than money" crowd, so I know where I stand with this.

If all you want is for your bike not to run lean during closed loop operation you can utilize the ied's (in the AFR flavor of your choice) to compensate. If you want the bike to run a little better throughout the entire range you can run a PCV, Cobra tuner, Thundermax, etc. If you want to gain every ounce of power you can the only way to do that is to adjust all of the tables from scratch, which means you need to get some software.

No point in going all overkill if all you want is for your bike to not run lean.

It's the same as anything else: Once you know what it is exactly that you want to produce you can either do it right once, or do it as many times as you like until you decide to do it right.

 

Just got my PCV in the mail yesterday... Pipes and air cleaner get in tomorrow so I'll let you know what I think about it!

 

I put on the Cobra Power Pro Auto Tuner... The bike runs so smooth and power is unbeleiveable. You just plug it in and it tunes itself no dyno tuning needed.

 

Just my experiences:

I've had only two tuners, the Screaming Eagle Pro Tuner and the TTS Mastertune. The Pro-Tuner was tuned by the dealership for my Stage 1 upgrade and for my 1200 conversion.

The Stage 1 went fine and the bike ran with no problems. Come time for the time to have the 1200 conversion tune, the bike had multiple problems on the initial tune. Lots of popping and flat spots, so I took it back to the dealer to retune. This time it went a lot better; however, when the bike was running it would miss a beat every 30 seconds or so for 1/4 a second, but enough to hear that it wasn't running that well. I decided to try a different route and found an Indy that was a Master of the Mastertune.

Doc took my bike and spent 4 hours going cell to cell meticulously until each one showed white on the VE Tables. I was able to gain another 4 horse power and +2 on my torque. The bike runs much smoother and that annoying miss is completely gone. Power wise, I thought it felt like it lost some of its rip. I'm starting to realize that it's still there, but it is more evenly distributed and pulls throughout the power curve vice the immediate torque dump the HD dealer tune had. My first run with it I felt kinda disappointed. It felt like the bike was not quick at all. Then I looked down and noticed I was running 65 in 4th gear. The bike was so smooth that I didn't even realize that it had climbed that high. When I returned to Doc's garage he explained it to me, anyone can tune a bike so that it runs OK, but it takes someone who cares and has the knowledge to get it running with precision.

The Screaming-Eagle tuner (not the SERT as that one was created by the mastermind behind the TTS.) gives a decent tune, but lacks some pretty important items (ie: foundation maps) The TTS, in the hands of someone who has knowledge and cares about your bike is a better qualified tuner.

There are lots of items on the market for tuning. Best bet would be for you to look at what the person who is going to tune your bike is comfortable with and how comfortable you are with them tuning your bike.