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From: Rockwall, TX
I just did V&H short shots no baffles with DK custom lollipops, HD breather, x14ied, and it runs amazing now.
Had slight Decel pop but that was from leaking exhaust gasket....got that fixed today and it's like a brand new bike.
Had slight Decel pop but that was from leaking exhaust gasket....got that fixed today and it's like a brand new bike.
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From: Syracuse
Not dumb. Yes, it is for the pair.
What is the best XIED product for my Sportster?
We recommend the X14iED for general use on all Sportsters. This provides the best all around performance.
For Riders that want to experiment with fuel mixtures, the VIED allows a range of fuel mixtures from 14.3 to 13.7:1. This is our recommend alternative to the X14ED. It gives you the chance to try the 14.0:1 and 13.8:1 AFR's, making the final setting based on your riding style.
For Riders with a Bar Hopper riding style (in town), the XiED can be used. Its slightly richer fuel mixture than the X14iED is well suited for in-town riding, but not high RPM, high speed riding.
Contrary to popular belief, richer is not alway better, only richer. For normal cruising in closed loop, there is a diminishing return as the fuel ratio gets richer than 14.2:1. The X14iED is set at 14.0:1 which as proven to be an excellent all around fuel mixture, especially when taking into account the adaptive nature of the HD Delphi ECM.
More details on each variation of the XiED's HERE
What is the best XIED product for my Sportster?
We recommend the X14iED for general use on all Sportsters. This provides the best all around performance.
For Riders that want to experiment with fuel mixtures, the VIED allows a range of fuel mixtures from 14.3 to 13.7:1. This is our recommend alternative to the X14ED. It gives you the chance to try the 14.0:1 and 13.8:1 AFR's, making the final setting based on your riding style.
For Riders with a Bar Hopper riding style (in town), the XiED can be used. Its slightly richer fuel mixture than the X14iED is well suited for in-town riding, but not high RPM, high speed riding.
Contrary to popular belief, richer is not alway better, only richer. For normal cruising in closed loop, there is a diminishing return as the fuel ratio gets richer than 14.2:1. The X14iED is set at 14.0:1 which as proven to be an excellent all around fuel mixture, especially when taking into account the adaptive nature of the HD Delphi ECM.
More details on each variation of the XiED's HERE
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From: Syracuse
I just want to point out something that everyone is not saying here. If you plan on doing more to your bike like cams or internal work or a 1250 kit than a real tuner will be worth the money. If you are just going with a stage 1, then what everyone else is saying will be fine. If you do plan to keep upgrading look into a thundrmax autotune, no dyno needed and will always adjust to what you add. Plus you can set things like rev limits and spark rate if you ever change your cams out.
EXCELLENT info! Man you are making me want to hock something so i can get a set LOL. Bike runs so crappy i dont even want to ride. I long for my old bike, 89 1200 carbed. Id even be willing to put up with the 2 sets of fouled plugs every 3 days or so and clean them rather than ride this bike that seems to want to either stall, or keep high Rpm's at stops. Real unpleasent ride right now until i can get a fix. The heat off the motor is extreme. I HATE lean bikes.
Your's sounds even leaner than factory though...have you checked for intake & exhaust leaks...either one can make the bike run even leaner than factory.
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Hey Ironman,
Look, I just went through where you are at now. IF you plan in the near future to tinker with your bike in order to have it run like a dyno tuned God, then many others have good advice about the product to buy.
If you want your bike to run Good with the two mods you have done (a/c, exhaust), then do not believe that the Stage 1 Harley Davidson download is not worth the money BECAUSE IT IS worth the money, 150.00 and your bike is now tuned for what you have put on.
I have x14ieds that was on my stock bike and I agree they helped smooth out that configuration, but when I put the two add ons it was not enough.
The Stage 1 will put the ECM in harmony with your changes. Now I am going to run my bike for about 1000 miles and check and recheck the plugs for lean signs. If it is running lean I will reinstall the x14ieds to see if it will give a little fuel boost.
Believe me if you go get the Stage 1 from Harley for about 50.00 more than the x14ieds you will notice the difference.
That is all.
Look, I just went through where you are at now. IF you plan in the near future to tinker with your bike in order to have it run like a dyno tuned God, then many others have good advice about the product to buy.
If you want your bike to run Good with the two mods you have done (a/c, exhaust), then do not believe that the Stage 1 Harley Davidson download is not worth the money BECAUSE IT IS worth the money, 150.00 and your bike is now tuned for what you have put on.
I have x14ieds that was on my stock bike and I agree they helped smooth out that configuration, but when I put the two add ons it was not enough.
The Stage 1 will put the ECM in harmony with your changes. Now I am going to run my bike for about 1000 miles and check and recheck the plugs for lean signs. If it is running lean I will reinstall the x14ieds to see if it will give a little fuel boost.
Believe me if you go get the Stage 1 from Harley for about 50.00 more than the x14ieds you will notice the difference.
That is all.
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From: Chicago
X14iED
XIED
VIED
AFXiED
can anyone tell me which one is best for my bike to use. I ride my bike 35mph to 45mph in the suburbs going to work and house about 24 miles everyday and sometimes I exit to freeway and drive my bike 60mph to 70mph around 12 miles.
and also if possible to combine one of this product to V&H FUEL-PAK...because I was also interested buying one..
thanks!
XIED
VIED
AFXiED
can anyone tell me which one is best for my bike to use. I ride my bike 35mph to 45mph in the suburbs going to work and house about 24 miles everyday and sometimes I exit to freeway and drive my bike 60mph to 70mph around 12 miles.
and also if possible to combine one of this product to V&H FUEL-PAK...because I was also interested buying one..
thanks!
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From: Syracuse
Hey Ironman,
Look, I just went through where you are at now. IF you plan in the near future to tinker with your bike in order to have it run like a dyno tuned God, then many others have good advice about the product to buy.
If you want your bike to run Good with the two mods you have done (a/c, exhaust), then do not believe that the Stage 1 Harley Davidson download is not worth the money BECAUSE IT IS worth the money, 150.00 and your bike is now tuned for what you have put on.
I have x14ieds that was on my stock bike and I agree they helped smooth out that configuration, but when I put the two add ons it was not enough.
The Stage 1 will put the ECM in harmony with your changes. Now I am going to run my bike for about 1000 miles and check and recheck the plugs for lean signs. If it is running lean I will reinstall the x14ieds to see if it will give a little fuel boost.
Believe me if you go get the Stage 1 from Harley for about 50.00 more than the x14ieds you will notice the difference.
That is all.
Look, I just went through where you are at now. IF you plan in the near future to tinker with your bike in order to have it run like a dyno tuned God, then many others have good advice about the product to buy.
If you want your bike to run Good with the two mods you have done (a/c, exhaust), then do not believe that the Stage 1 Harley Davidson download is not worth the money BECAUSE IT IS worth the money, 150.00 and your bike is now tuned for what you have put on.
I have x14ieds that was on my stock bike and I agree they helped smooth out that configuration, but when I put the two add ons it was not enough.
The Stage 1 will put the ECM in harmony with your changes. Now I am going to run my bike for about 1000 miles and check and recheck the plugs for lean signs. If it is running lean I will reinstall the x14ieds to see if it will give a little fuel boost.
Believe me if you go get the Stage 1 from Harley for about 50.00 more than the x14ieds you will notice the difference.
That is all.
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From: Syracuse
stage 1 download..so what is this to do my bike? I'm sorry my bad... I thought my bike is already in stage 1 after my upgrades. Did you mean DYNo?...I'm sorry my bad again. I'm new to all this....I dont know I read different terms but I dont realized they only have the same meaning.....correct if I'm wrong
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Yes i have, no leaks. I wish it were that simple. Read previous post and see why im so dayum upset. This is killin me having this happen to something i spent a huge chunk of money as cash down for something that to me is one of the worst bikes ive ever seen. Hell, dont even know if i can afford to trade it in for something else, or like i said, just surrender it. Id rather not ride ahan put up with this any longer. Put 700ish miles on it and its been this way since day 1. Bike has 5.2k miles now, it had 4.5k when i bought it april 4th. Put 700ish miles on it and its been this way since day 1. Bike has 5.2k miles now, it had 4.5k when i bought it april 4th.
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X14iED
XIED
VIED
AFXiED
can anyone tell me which one is best for my bike to use. I ride my bike 35mph to 45mph in the suburbs going to work and house about 24 miles everyday and sometimes I exit to freeway and drive my bike 60mph to 70mph around 12 miles.
and also if possible to combine one of this product to V&H FUEL-PAK...because I was also interested buying one..
thanks!
XIED
VIED
AFXiED
can anyone tell me which one is best for my bike to use. I ride my bike 35mph to 45mph in the suburbs going to work and house about 24 miles everyday and sometimes I exit to freeway and drive my bike 60mph to 70mph around 12 miles.
and also if possible to combine one of this product to V&H FUEL-PAK...because I was also interested buying one..
thanks!