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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by parabellum_9x19
Implying that the ability to lock up the front = braking power shows how little you actually understand about this issue.

Even vastly underpowered brakes like the ones the MoCo puts on the 883 models are capable of locking the front tire if you grab the brake BEFORE the weight of the bike loads onto the front tire.

The ONLY determiner of stopping power is braking distance from various speeds as per DOT testing guidelines.

I have a sport riding back ground, track days, and race instruction...Go hit up a serious riding forum where guys really know how to drag a knee, and tell them that "I can lock the front so my brakes are very powerful" and get laughed off the forum.
Dusty has a 21 inch wheel with skinny tire.
H-D does still have a Sportster with awesome brakes,
but for export only.
ABS is standard on export Sportsters.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_GB...-roadster.html
 

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by parabellum_9x19
Implying that the ability to lock up the front = braking power shows how little you actually understand about this issue.

Even vastly underpowered brakes like the ones the MoCo puts on the 883 models are capable of locking the front tire if you grab the brake BEFORE the weight of the bike loads onto the front tire.

The ONLY determiner of stopping power is braking distance from various speeds as per DOT testing guidelines.

I have a sport riding back ground, track days, and race instruction...Go hit up a serious riding forum where guys really know how to drag a knee, and tell them that "I can lock the front so my brakes are very powerful" and get laughed off the forum.
And an R6 has a max lean angle of 61.8 degrees. The sportster brakes, if you know how to maintain your bike, will lock the front up even when every last ounce of weight is shifted up front.

If what you say, a fully weight shifted front brake will not lock the wheel up. Then what is the problem with the brakes? If someone lacks the hand strength to do it then the ABS wont help either. All dual discs will do is make it even easier to lock up the front.

Even with ABS people who refuse to learn how to ride and brake, are going to have the same outcome no matter how many discs are up front or how much ABS it has. Its like saying a smart phones make people smart. All the hardware in the world will not replace skill. Like I said the sportster front brakes are more than enough. Is not a sport bike so dont ride it like one, ride it like a sportster.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Bones
Is not a sport bike so dont ride it like one, ride it like a sportster.
Says the guy who rides his 883C faster than anybody else on the Dragon...
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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so why did the cost of the iron base model go up $400 anybody know.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by c0jones
Says the guy who rides his 883C faster than anybody else on the Dragon...
Nope. Only bikes with firestone repop car tires on the front.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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so why did the cost of the iron base model go up $400 anybody know.
-Larger brake rotors
-Improved master cylinders
-Steel braided brake lines
-Tachometer & gear indicator
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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i love the new 48 looks sweet.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by c0jones
-Larger brake rotors
-Improved master cylinders
-Steel braided brake lines
-Tachometer & gear indicator
oh cool thanks
 
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Originally Posted by c0jones
Says the guy who rides his 883C faster than anybody else on the Dragon...
Bahahahhaa............Im staying out of this one
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Bones
Nope. Only bikes with firestone repop car tires on the front.
For a second there I thought you were talking about me...........never used firestones.
 
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