Sportster Models 883, 883 Custom, 1200 Custom, 883L, 1200L, 1200S, 1200 Roadster, XR1200, and the Nightster.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Another Break Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:39 PM
  #1  
AB1200R's Avatar
AB1200R
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati/NKY
Default Another Break Question

So...my rear break switch went out on my 2004 1200R. I ran to HD and bought a new one, replaced it and all was working correctly. My brakes were a little soft so I decided to bleed them, and now I dont have any brakes and the brake light is not working.

I think I am bleeding them correctly, but not sure. I have search every thing I can think of and watched 2 or 3 videos, and still no brakes, peddle is very loose.

Any help would be great.
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 01:38 PM
  #2  
John Harper's Avatar
John Harper
HDF Community Team
10 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,601
Likes: 4,041
From: San Diego, CA
Community Team
Default

Sounds like you did not bleed system correctly. Have someone hold the pedal down while you bleed, then close bleed screw, then release pedal. You probably sucked air into the system.

Mine took a couple bleeds to get the air bubble out, the way the switch installs on mine is from the top down, so a tiny air bubble results when you change it.

John
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 03:24 PM
  #3  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,898
From: Bedford UK
Default

You haven't bled the brakes completely. There are plenty of threads in here with tips on bleeding. Also go to the DIY Brakes section, where there is a Sticky with tips.
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 04:58 PM
  #4  
modular's Avatar
modular
Supporter
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,434
Likes: 292
From: Earth
Supporter
Default

Try applying pressure on the brake lever with a ziptie overnight.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 07:53 AM
  #5  
AB1200R's Avatar
AB1200R
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati/NKY
Default

Thanks for the replies, back at it today.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 12:33 PM
  #6  
AB1200R's Avatar
AB1200R
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati/NKY
Default

no luck so far today...I have pumped about 5oz through the rear system and still not getting anything. also tried the syringe idea from the XL forum....

Any other ideas?
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 01:04 PM
  #7  
scooter1128's Avatar
scooter1128
Road Captain
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 717
Likes: 18
From: perry, fl
Default

do you have anyone that can help you? easiest way i found is fill m/c and put cap back on, open bleeder, have assistant step on or pull lever and hold, then close bleeder and then have them release pedal/lever. do several times and you should see bubbles work out until a steady stream. keep eye on fluid, dont want to empty m/c as your bleeding or youll get even more air in the system. another thing you can do is leave cap off m/c, then open bleeder and let gravity go to work. once fluid starts coming thru bleeder, close bleeder, fill m/c and put top back on...then have your helper help finish the bleeding doing in the order i stated. sometimes it can get aggravating. i personally have had no issues doing it like this but have heard many that still couldnt get a good pedal/lever. you can get some speed bleeders or use some sort of vacuum. i havent had the need to do this though. good luck
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 01:12 PM
  #8  
John Harper's Avatar
John Harper
HDF Community Team
10 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,601
Likes: 4,041
From: San Diego, CA
Community Team
Default

Yes, get someone to help do the pedal, and you work the bleed screw. Don't open the bleed screw unless the assistant has the pedal fully depressed. Sounds to me like you're just pumping and sucking air back in.

Have your assistant slowly pump the pedal a few times, then hold it down. You then quickly open the bleed screw slightly, let some fluid squirt out a bit, then close tight. Close screw while there is still some flow and you won't suck air back in.

After that, have your assistant release the pedal and do this process again until only clear fluid comes out. Make sure your reservoir has fluid before you start.

I have no idea why people make this so difficult, it is a really easy procedure if you have help at the pedal end. Done it this way for 40 years on every car or bike I've owned and never had a problem.

John
 

Last edited by John Harper; Sep 30, 2013 at 01:16 PM.
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 01:15 PM
  #9  
Buckinfitch's Avatar
Buckinfitch
Supporter
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 13,870
Likes: 4,083
From: Taylortucky, MI
Supporter
Default

FYI, they are Brakes ....... not Breaks
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 07:30 PM
  #10  
AB1200R's Avatar
AB1200R
Thread Starter
|
Novice
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati/NKY
Default

But when you get this frustrated you want to break them...


Anyway, it appears I have a master cylinder issue. I had a buddy come over and help, we removed the caliper to raise it as high as possible. Bled again until no bubbles came out. Put the pads and caliper back together and when pumping the peddle the caliper hardly moves, like its not moving enough fluid.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 AM.

story-0
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE