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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 03:33 AM
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Is the front as well as the rear an ABS brake?
Yes of course! What would be the point only having it on the rear!? It's anti lock...needed especially on the front wheel.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 04:03 AM
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You can check this one out to see what happens when you lock up the wheels on a wet road without abs and how it works with abs.

 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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Yeah I am imagining there will be a learning curve with it so some practice stops in a parking lot probably makes sense to familiarize myself with what to expect from the bike during a full brake situation. Another big concern will be to remember which bike I am on to change braking habits.

A couple of points of interest from the comments. Why would I not be able to maintain the brakes myself due to ABS? I do most of the work myself on my cars and bikes so I am really interested in more info on that. Also interested in how the ABS module impacts the exhaust.

Kind of funny how tons of people buy a new Harley and don't blink an eye to spend 500 bucks on a set of pipes just to make it sound better but question adding technology that is statistically proven to make the bike safer . You can bolt on a set of pipes at any time but retrofitting a bike with ABS after the fact is not cost effective. The statistics to support ABS on bikes is pretty convincing.

I put the order in for a 48 with abs, now I wait.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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I think the reason why guys dont want it is what Kevin pointed out...........resistance to change. Many people say they dont need it and can brake better without it............hogwash. The same thing happened when abs came out it cars........resistance. None of my bikes have it.........if it were available at the time I would have gotten it.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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There is one problem you will face if you want to mod your new 48. Because of changes in the 14's, some aftermarket parts from the previous years won't fit.

Some manufacturers will be cautious and de-list the 2014's until they verify that their product fits.
Some won't make the changes needed for an extended time, or ever.
Perhaps some won't realize the change and will ship parts that don't fit?

It'll all get sorted in a few months.

Good luck with your new ride!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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When I bought my 2013 Sporty, the 2014s were out and there was a 2014 1200C on the showroom floor that had ABS while my 2013 did not. I seriously considered the 2014 because of the ABS but in the end my desire to have an anniversary bike and the great closeout deal I got had me heading for home with the 2013. I hope that wasn’t a mistake on my part and I wouldn’t rule out that an ABS bike might be in my future.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Yeah I wanted the 14 when I read about the brake upgrades even before considering ABS. You can't have too much brakes!

In the end I knew I would be able to score a good deal buying in December in CT. The 14 with ABS really was not that much more in the end after some pretty tough negotiating. For my deal it made sense for me to go 14.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acrviper
Yeah I am imagining there will be a learning curve with it so some practice stops in a parking lot probably makes sense to familiarize myself with what to expect from the bike during a full brake situation. Another big concern will be to remember which bike I am on to change braking habits.

A couple of points of interest from the comments. Why would I not be able to maintain the brakes myself due to ABS? I do most of the work myself on my cars and bikes so I am really interested in more info on that. Also interested in how the ABS module impacts the exhaust.

Kind of funny how tons of people buy a new Harley and don't blink an eye to spend 500 bucks on a set of pipes just to make it sound better but question adding technology that is statistically proven to make the bike safer . You can bolt on a set of pipes at any time but retrofitting a bike with ABS after the fact is not cost effective. The statistics to support ABS on bikes is pretty convincing.

I put the order in for a 48 with abs, now I wait.
Congrats on the new bike coming your way!

I suppose you could change the brake pads. But if any of the lines are opened, or when changing brake fluid, there is a tool (Harley calls it the "Digital Technician II") that must be used to verify all air is out of the lines, otherwise the ABS will not work properly.

I have bikes without ABS, and a bike With ABS. I practice emergency stops on both. I am very aware when I am on one without ABS, and brake accordingly. However, in an emergency I hope my muscle memory remembers which I am on!

I may just be drawing a blank, but why would you think the exhaust would have any impact on ABS equipped bike?
 
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Originally Posted by Rog48
I think the reason why guys dont want it is what Kevin pointed out...........resistance to change. Many people say they dont need it and can brake better without it............hogwash. The same thing happened when abs came out it cars........resistance. None of my bikes have it.........if it were available at the time I would have gotten it.
Yeah, no doubt one can stop faster with the ABS...even the best rider, with tons of experience, just can't make as many decisions per second for every nuance in the road surface to stay at max braking without locking up.

That is why I actually passed on a few different Softails, waiting to find one that had ABS.

But have you read that the new Touring models have linked braking? This I do not see a purpose in, except to make it easier for inexperienced riders to stop better. I may just be resisting another "good" change. But I just don't see any upside in it for me.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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I only mentioned the ABS module as someone posted it as a concern on the first page. I could not see how they were related but honestly I did not do too much digging on the system and the dealer did not have one on the floor for me to poke around on where they mount any controls.

I will definitely do some research on the "Digital Technician". Aside from swapping pads I like to flush the fluid as well. Sounds like I may have a concern there.

Had not heard of the linked brakes before. The system sounds like it makes sense...I mean I do not have a front and rear brake pedal in my car. Interesting stuff.
 
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