Screamin Eagle stage 2 kit, don't waste your money...
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From: Louisburg, KS
I'm questioning the set up on their dyno. Like would your bike be in the mood eighties on another dealer's dyno? Or maybe the cam is just conservative enough to do that.
At the same time though, I'm thinking the fellow just sold you some snake oil. People are doing heavy modifications to 1200's to get high nineties in power. I think the fellow mostly oversold you on the abilities of the 883 with emissions capable parts and tuning.
At the same time though, I'm thinking the fellow just sold you some snake oil. People are doing heavy modifications to 1200's to get high nineties in power. I think the fellow mostly oversold you on the abilities of the 883 with emissions capable parts and tuning.
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I'm questioning the set up on their dyno. Like would your bike be in the mood eighties on another dealer's dyno? Or maybe the cam is just conservative enough to do that.
At the same time though, I'm thinking the fellow just sold you some snake oil. People are doing heavy modifications to 1200's to get high nineties in power. I think the fellow mostly oversold you on the abilities of the 883 with emissions capable parts and tuning.
At the same time though, I'm thinking the fellow just sold you some snake oil. People are doing heavy modifications to 1200's to get high nineties in power. I think the fellow mostly oversold you on the abilities of the 883 with emissions capable parts and tuning.
I'm not sure, but I have a case open with Harley Davidson direct and will be contacting the dealer tomorrow to discuss what the parts manager told me about this kit. Tell someone this kit will make 100hp and then end up being shy almost 40 whp is def. not going to work in my book.
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From: Portsmouth, Ohio
The parts dude was a dumb@$$ for telling you to expect 100hp... But 80 or close to it shouldn't be that far out of the question! You've got a high flow cleaner and good flowing exhaust. That dealer needs a tech who knows how to tune!
Last edited by jasonryen; Jul 15, 2014 at 09:58 PM.
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To me it sounds like they hosed you with typical dealer BS. They convinced you to go with stage 2 which they happened to have in stock.. AKA someone ordered it and bailed on the kit causing them to have to much overhead and in return making them push it onto you. Then they lied about numbers when we all know that 100WHP is a lot for these motors. I am sorry man but its just another stealership mishap.
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That sounds about right for power before and after. Sorry the dealer told you 100 hp but there is no way a sportster is going to make 100 hp without serious motor work. I have a stage 2 103", 1690 cc. Thats aire intake, headers, mufflers, and SE 255 cams. I made 83 hp and 102 tq in mile high city where we are low on oxygen.
Should have done your research before listening to an idiot salesman. Heck even the Harley SE catalog shows the hp/tq numbers of all these kits and I bet it dont say 100 hp.
Should have done your research before listening to an idiot salesman. Heck even the Harley SE catalog shows the hp/tq numbers of all these kits and I bet it dont say 100 hp.
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From: Denver
You need to find a new dealer, call Mile High Harley and talk to their service techs.
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Looking at the HP & TQ curves on the dyno chart, makes it obvious there was nothing to be gained over 6000 rpm, as you can see the HP curve has flattened out and even started to drop off a bit. This is good example for why the stage 1 download that raises the rev limiter to 7000 is worthless. Without the proper pieces and parts that play well together and are designed to make power above 6000, there is no performance gain to be had.
The dyno results are typical, if not a little below, of what I usually see for a stock 1200 with good stage 1 mods on a carb bike, EFI usually runs a few HP more (low 70's). It really looks to me like you got a 1200 upgrade with no headwork or cams.
If you're someone who's going to do their own wrenching anyway, this is why Hammer Performance or NRHS makes for a much better choice for performance parts (bang for the buck).
Last edited by cHarley; Jul 16, 2014 at 03:35 PM.