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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 03:41 PM
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Avon Cobra 180/55/18
Is that the Native Bagger setup?

What all do the wide tire "kits" change?
 

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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 06:28 PM
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Is that the Native Bagger setup?

What all do the wide tire "kits" change?
Not a Native kit but was going to go that route but when all costs were totaled it was close to $3,000. I found a used/new 18" Revtech modular wheel on ebay for $350 and a used rear Harley 18" wheel for about the same. I cut the fork cans myself and the rear fender is an 8" rear chopper fender from Led Sled. I had to fit and finish everything and with paint I have about $1,500 in all. The handling and ride is what I was after as well as the appearance but the ride is beyond my expectations. The bike is scarily glued to the road, I can scrap pipes and boards on a whim , even two up and the bike says "is that all you got" ! All the larger bumps become small and the small ones just disappear altogether , even the cracks and irregularities that cause you to be careful with the front tire just aren't there anymore, it's an amazing feeling of confidence. The forks are all stock except I installed Progressive mono tubes but as far as the tire is concerned. So cut the cans , buy a fender, wheel and tire and you have a 180 conversion. Thought you would enjoy the last pic
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 06:53 PM
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Now that is impressive.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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It is freaking gorgeous....

I wish I had those skills...sigh
 
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Good stuff man. That doesn't seem bad at all!! I wish I could do it with a "stock appearing" wheel. Are saying that an 18" rear could work up front? That's the only part I found confusing. Everything else looks straight forward. What about brakes? I'd even run a 17 if need be.

Thanks for the info.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 67Shuv
Good stuff man. That doesn't seem bad at all!! I wish I could do it with a "stock appearing" wheel. Are saying that an 18" rear could work up front? That's the only part I found confusing. Everything else looks straight forward. What about brakes? I'd even run a 17 if need be.

Thanks for the info.
Yes, I used a 5.5 X 18" rear modular wheel with a front hub with dual or single disc depending on what you want. Many modular wheels are all made by the same company , Performance Machine under many names and the hubs will all interchange. Just for instance, if you want two of the same wheels front and rear all you do is buy the wheels and a front hub and a rear hub , as per type and year of your bike. In my case I have two different types of wheels for cost purposes but if I wanted to run a ct 16" 5.5 wheel on rear and 18" 5.5 rear wheel on front for the 180 conversion I can match wheel types just use different hubs. The brakes are all stock as are the forks. There always seems to be some on ebay, new ones are $1,200+ with hubs. Another example, if you see a rear modular wheel with a rear hub for sale and want to use the wheel on the front all you do is buy it and change out the rear hub for a front hub that fits your bike, many wheels will be for sale without the hub so all you do is buy the wheel then a new hub to fit your bike, front or rear depending. That's what I did. Awesome huh ? LOL, that's how these custom guys get such exotic combinations so easy, the freakin wheels are all the same you just change the hubs ! In the pic below both are the same exact type wheel, different size but they could be the same if you wanted them to be, one has a front hub and one has a rear hub ! The other pic is my wheel without the hub........front hub ,front wheel........... rear hub , rear wheel ! I also left and ebay link but it may not load. go to bottom of page on listing and read description, this wheel could be used front or rear just change hub.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Revtech...xYdP4H&vxp=mtr
 
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So easy a caveman could do it

great info, thanks for posting that up.
 
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Originally Posted by rlh7677
I run the same tire and ride two up mostly and have found 40psi to be good for me. The tire is wearing perfect and have not found any issues at all that I want to change. pics are at 15,000 miles
Outstanding! How do you like its handling as compared to other tires (MC)? have you had one go flat on you? Curves? I just put mine up to 40 PSI and going from there. I mostly ride 1 up, with a varying type of roads from flat to "Arkansas Dragon" to chip-seal. Any other tips on this tire?
 
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I truly do like that 180 up front!
Me too, it looks fantastic!
 
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