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Everyone calm down. America is slowly turning in to Canada. Soon there won't be anything to argue about. Then we can all focus on bashing Mexico and anything south of it.
There won't be any US. There is a Mexican movement to take over the USA. Seriously. Their population is growing, Hispanics are getting elected to gov't, this is going to get nasty. And for the record, I am not a hater. I just wnat to keep my country for my kids, as it was (or better) than when I was growing up.
Originally Posted by kiwideuce
sounds like a global issue
Yes, ignorance knows no bounds.
Originally Posted by sonoffatboy
yer kidding..those camel jockey ****'s, i wish whole bunch of em would GTF out...
really i have been crossing the border on my scoot to the states for years..and never had problem.....and my U.S. friends have come up here no probs...but if you have criminal record..and that includes DIU you "could" have an issue if the border really wants to check you out...
suggestion...its an old conviction...we can apply for a pardon up here..(i did)..and i bet in the states if it was something minor you can do the same.....
and FFS..you guys bitching at each other across the border...think about our troops (U.S. and Cda) side by side in afganistan fighting the haji's...i bet our boys don't give a rats *** who is beside them when the enemy is shooting at them...eh?
They respect each other, and I respect them ALL. Brits, French, Canadiens, of course USA, all of our Allies. If we don't stand together, we will all fall!
I have another buddy up here in Canada that was arrested for robbery when he was 19 and has never gotten into any kind of trouble since. He is now 58.
Up here in Canada, if you've had a clean record for so many years, you can apply for a pardon so your criminal record is sealed and won't show up on a computer check.
Apparently, Canada and the US share database info when doing criminal checks at the border crossing.
He recently applied for a pardon, and got it, so now he thought that he would be able to enter the US, but he got refused entry because the US doesn't recognize Canadian pardons, but his old record shouldn't even have shown up on the computer check.
How did the US border guards know he had a criminal record? His record doesn't show up on Canadian record checks.
Well apparently he tried to enter the US about 5 years earlier and got turned back. At that time the US's computers got that info from Canada's computers and stored it.
So now that his record is considered clean in Canada the US's computers don't forget.
So if your going to apply for a pardon in Canada, don't try enter the US until your pardon has gone through so your previous record won't be permanently stored on a US computer.
I'm not sure if it works the same the other way around, but I'm sure its probably similar.
If someone knows how this works better than I do, your comments are appreciated.
Last edited by Stubby3492; May 28, 2010 at 02:54 AM.
So if your going to apply for a pardon in Canada, don't try enter the US until your pardon has gone through so your previous record won't be permanently stored on a US computer.
I'm not sure if it works the same the other way around, but I'm sure its probably similar.
If someone knows how this works better than I do, your comments are appreciated.
Hey Stubby; It's not so much that the pardon hasnt gone through.....I also had to apply for a pardon, several years ago, but to cross into the U.S., I need to go through a separate process..Canadian pardons are not considered 'valid'(for lack of a better word), @ the CA/US border. If you have/had a record in CA, and were ever refused entry into US, you(and I), need to make similiar application to be able to cross .... had all the info but lost it....if you contact Pardons Canada, they may steer you in proper direction
Hey Stubby; It's not so much that the pardon hasnt gone through.....I also had to apply for a pardon, several years ago, but to cross into the U.S., I need to go through a separate process..Canadian pardons are not considered 'valid'(for lack of a better word), @ the CA/US border. If you have/had a record in CA, and were ever refused entry into US, you(and I), need to make similiar application to be able to cross .... had all the info but lost it....if you contact Pardons Canada, they may steer you in proper direction
Thanks for the clarification DynaStorm,
You say that if you have/had a record in CA, and were ever refused entry into US.....
My understanding is that if you had a record in CA and never attempted to cross the border before getting your CA pardon, so you've never been refused entry before, the US customs won't have any info about your previous record and you should be ok.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
nope....they still no if you have/had a record, unless you go through the proper channels to rectify.....thats why they ask you @ the border - 'have you ever been convisted/arrested?"....they like to play games
nope....they still no if you have/had a record, unless you go through the proper channels to rectify.....thats why they ask you @ the border - 'have you ever been convisted/arrested?"....they like to play games
Ok, you are right, they did ask me that, and they also asked me if I'd ever been fingerprinted. I had to tell them I had, but it wasn't for anything criminal, it was when I was getting a security consultants license in the early '90's, you have to get fingerprinted.
They let me in no problem.
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