HD bottom end quality progress?
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HD bottom end quality progress?
Does anyone know if Harley has made changes to the crankshaft since 2007? I had a 07 and was told that the 07 and 08 crankshaft issues were addressed in 09. Not say fixed totally correct but improved. I also wonder if improvements have been made in 10, 11, 12, 13 or to the 14 and 15's. I don't hear about the issue like I did back in 07. Any information is appreciated.
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Does anyone know if Harley has made changes to the crankshaft since 2007? I had a 07 and was told that the 07 and 08 crankshaft issues were addressed in 09. Not say fixed totally correct but improved. I also wonder if improvements have been made in 10, 11, 12, 13 or to the 14 and 15's. I don't hear about the issue like I did back in 07. Any information is appreciated.
They did tighten things up in 10 I believe, but it didn't amount to much.
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In 10 they tightened up the press fit tolerances. They also sent out info to dealers on how to correctly measure run out. I don't know all the details but apparently many were measuring cranks like they did on the older style cranks where the shafts were machined all the way to the ends of the shaft. Not so anymore.
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It seams like we are having fewer crankshaft related issues with the newer bikes, especially when compared to the 07 and 08 period. Back then, the CVO's with the 110's seemed to have the most issues. Heaven forbid, if I ever do suffer a crank related issue ( I do not think I will ) in my 14 Limited, I will have a top quality bottom end installed.
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In 10 they tightened up the press fit tolerances. They also sent out info to dealers on how to correctly measure run out. I don't know all the details but apparently many were measuring cranks like they did on the older style cranks where the shafts were machined all the way to the ends of the shaft. Not so anymore.
Yeah, sure.....That was the bullshit story that they fed everyone.
Measure the runout on a pre-2003 motor and then measure the runout on anything built after that.
The results will amaze you....Not in a good way.
They have cheaped down and weakened the lower end on these motors so much in recent years that I'm surprised that anyone that has real knowledge about the inside of these motors will even buy one...I certainly wouldn't unless I planned on tearing it down and replacing the entire lower end before I ran it.
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During a teardown for the SE Stage III Kit ('09 SERG) the front rod bearings were stiff (9,500mi) it was fixin' to cut loose..
The '05 SEEG (56k rode hard) never an issue...
The '01 Switchblade (4-3/8 SE Crank) 38k never an issue with the stock or SE Crank.
The '05 SEEG (56k rode hard) never an issue...
The '01 Switchblade (4-3/8 SE Crank) 38k never an issue with the stock or SE Crank.
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I may have answered my own question. Check out this article from Thunderpress
http://www.thunderpress.net/editoria...2013/08/21.htm
The article claims that our modern three piece crankshafts are actually very good; at least for normal riding vs the drag strip. I have heard it before that lugging our V-Twins is one of the worst things you can do to your motor. Interesting read
Thanks for all the input,
http://www.thunderpress.net/editoria...2013/08/21.htm
The article claims that our modern three piece crankshafts are actually very good; at least for normal riding vs the drag strip. I have heard it before that lugging our V-Twins is one of the worst things you can do to your motor. Interesting read
Thanks for all the input,
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I may have answered my own question. Check out this article from Thunderpress
http://www.thunderpress.net/editoria...2013/08/21.htm
The article claims that our modern three piece crankshafts are actually very good; at least for normal riding vs the drag strip. I have heard it before that lugging our V-Twins is one of the worst things you can do to your motor. Interesting read
Thanks for all the input,
http://www.thunderpress.net/editoria...2013/08/21.htm
The article claims that our modern three piece crankshafts are actually very good; at least for normal riding vs the drag strip. I have heard it before that lugging our V-Twins is one of the worst things you can do to your motor. Interesting read
Thanks for all the input,
Precisely why I'm adding a Hayden primary chain tensioner this winter. The Screaming Eagle is known to be very noisy so Ive ruled that one out. Baker makes a very nice manual adjuster too, but requires the removal of the comp to install. Some say the Hayden is too tight just like the the stock auto tensioner but being spring loaded there is no way that it wont give as needed under all that torsional crank load.
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Yeah, sure.....That was the bullshit story that they fed everyone.
Measure the runout on a pre-2003 motor and then measure the runout on anything built after that.
The results will amaze you....Not in a good way.
They have cheaped down and weakened the lower end on these motors so much in recent years that I'm surprised that anyone that has real knowledge about the inside of these motors will even buy one...I certainly wouldn't unless I planned on tearing it down and replacing the entire lower end before I ran it.
Measure the runout on a pre-2003 motor and then measure the runout on anything built after that.
The results will amaze you....Not in a good way.
They have cheaped down and weakened the lower end on these motors so much in recent years that I'm surprised that anyone that has real knowledge about the inside of these motors will even buy one...I certainly wouldn't unless I planned on tearing it down and replacing the entire lower end before I ran it.