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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishHogtrotter
Perfect! Thanks Irish!
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Time-Sert is so much stronger and better...It is my choice. I have used them for over 20 years!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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My older primary had the inspection cover over the adjuster. Over the years the threads just got weak and I tapped them out the 5/16"/18. There is plenty of meat there but the 5/16" allen bolts I used have heads that are obviously bigger. The Time -Sert method will work fine.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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I called an auto zone and he sells the time cert kit.
I guess I should bring in the derby screw to make sure he sells me the size I need.
I sure hope I don't screw this up. Lol
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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I don't think Helicoils or Time-certs will work for your derby cover. The primary is stamped sheet steel. While it's fairly thick sheet steel, it still doesn't have enough material to sink either of those into.

I've used expanding threaded aluminum sleeves in thin steel. You would drill the primary hole out per the instructions, insert the aluminum barrel until it bottoms out on the lip, then use the provided tool to expand the sleeve. It's basically a 1/4-20 screw with a washer. You tighten it, which deforms the sleeve, causing it to expand and lock into the hole. You need to make sure to tighten it down for enough expansion or eventually it will just spin in the hole and you won't be able to remove the 1/4 -20 screw that holds the derby cover on.

I'm pretty sure most decent hardware stores have them.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 05UltraBob
Time-Sert is so much stronger and better...It is my choice. I have used them for over 20 years!
Bob do you know what size insert you used?
If the screw is 1/4 20 then the insert would be what size drill hole?
I guess all that info is in the kit.
I'm just obsessing at this point.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gliden
Bob do you know what size insert you used?
If the screw is 1/4 20 then the insert would be what size drill hole?
I guess all that info is in the kit.
I'm just obsessing at this point.
When you buy the kit it will tell you what size of drill to use.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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I would buy 5 5/16-18 or 24 stainless or chrome bolts in the proper length and retap all 5 holes.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nevada72
I don't think Helicoils or Time-certs will work for your derby cover. The primary is stamped sheet steel. While it's fairly thick sheet steel, it still doesn't have enough material to sink either of those into.

I've used expanding threaded aluminum sleeves in thin steel. You would drill the primary hole out per the instructions, insert the aluminum barrel until it bottoms out on the lip, then use the provided tool to expand the sleeve. It's basically a 1/4-20 screw with a washer. You tighten it, which deforms the sleeve, causing it to expand and lock into the hole. You need to make sure to tighten it down for enough expansion or eventually it will just spin in the hole and you won't be able to remove the 1/4 -20 screw that holds the derby cover on.

I'm pretty sure most decent hardware stores have them.
Oh no.....say it ain't so Nevada.

Has anyone used a time cert successfully in a stripped derby cover application????
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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I have used heli-coils but never a time sert on the derby cover.
 
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