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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 07:45 AM
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I have the rush ceramic headers and no issues.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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I have Fullsac ceramics, and they are terrific. Hide nicely under the HD heat shields as well.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ridedaddy
I was shopping for a new header earlier and was in the process of placing an order for a s&s power tuned head pipe and then asked myself "why not a rush ceramic"? The s&s and the Rush premium duals are very similar except Rush offers there pipe in ceramic. Has anyone had any bad experience with ceramic? Peeling, cracking or anything? Any reason to not go with the new Rush premium duals?
The S&S Power tune head pipe is ceramic coated and a quality piece.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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I have the S&S Power Tune Dauls and they are not ceramic coated. I also have the Dragos true duals, which I am selling, and they are coated inside and out. The difference in heat was negigible and the Dragos burned my left thigh when I was in stop and go traffic. The S&S left side goes under the bike so no more burning my left thigh.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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I have the S&S pipes and had the chrome removed and had them ceramic coated inside and out. Haven't put them on yet. Probably spring time.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Since ceramic coated headers don't absorb and radiate heat like non ceramic headers, I would think the exhaust gases flowing through the mufflers would be hotter. A hotter muffler means accelerated discoloration and deterioration of packing material (if any). Just a theory.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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I'm prototyping custom drag pipes for my Street 750 rigid custom chopper project and inside ceramic coating is mandatory. They won't have heat shields and without the inside ceramic coat they would be blistering hot to the touch. I'm not planning on outside ceramic coat at this time because I'm copper plating everything, including the exhaust pipes, that would normally be chrome.


One of the advantages of the ceramic coat is that it keeps the heat inside of the exhaust pipe which actually improves performance slightly. I don't think it's enough to notice but on paper the hotter internal exhaust temperature the better it evacuates the engine as hotter exhaust gas volume is larger than a cooler exhaust gas volume.


To my knowledge, and what others have mentioned, is a properly applied ceramic coat does not crack as it is very heat resistant and very hard.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCoLoco
Since ceramic coated headers don't absorb and radiate heat like non ceramic headers, I would think the exhaust gases flowing through the mufflers would be hotter. A hotter muffler means accelerated discoloration and deterioration of packing material (if any). Just a theory.
I've had these thoughts also.... My bigger concern isn't with the packing in the mufflers but more a concern of increasing the odds of blueing the chrome on the mufflers even though the bike is properly tuned. The mufflers could be recieving extra heat that the non coated headers would have normally absorbed. Any insight on this?
 

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Originally Posted by ridedaddy
I've had these thoughts also.... My bigger concern isn't with the packing in the mifflers but more a concern of increasing the odds of blueing the chrome on the mifflers even though the bike is properly tuned due to the fact that the mufflers would be recieving extra hear that the non coated headers would have normally absorbed. Any insight on this?
When raw or chromed headpipes have heated up the exhaust gas should be the about the same at the muffler as it is with ceramic coated pipes. Since the new bikes are so lean and running hot, tuning will play a large part in heat reduction. It's drastically less heat than stock and many people just upgrade the slip-ons. You shouldn't have to worry about discoloring with any true duals, coated or not, when the bike is properly tuned.

We also offer the 7017HO which has the look of true duals but a crossover port for increased performance. New this year is the REC17 which is a budget friendly system with chrome plating and reuses the stock shields.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1-xjs
The S&S Power tune head pipe is ceramic coated and a quality piece.
I stand corrected, it is not ceramic coated. A chrome finish.
 
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