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Barnett's is not much better as far as sales as they have the market sewed up in the area. Have been to the Lawton dealership but only to buy a T shirt. Move on and find a dealership you feel comfortable with. Let your fingers do the walking and best of luck!!!
No disrespect intended but for an hour's worth of tuning, you probably didn't get much regardless of the price.
Someday, take it to a real tuner and you might be surprised at the difference.
well not sure how long you think its supposed to take but the guy that did mine is very well experienced and yes i did get my moneys worth. why should it take hours? if they know what they are doing it shouldnt take that long. this is the guy that did mine. trust me he knows his stuff.
No disrespect intended but for an hour's worth of tuning, you probably didn't get much regardless of the price.
Someday, take it to a real tuner and you might be surprised at the difference.
Perhaps I don't understand something involved. Internal combustion engines have been around for over 100 years. Set air/fuel ratio for steady state and for acceleration, set timing for the same situations. Where is the "rocket science" especially on a stock or only lightly modded engine?
wind river hd in lawton ok, dont waste your time going there. ive been several times cause there the closest and for that reason only. the sales people only come around if they think your going to buy something. if you have a question about something they act like your wasting their time. i will say that the sales manager is pretty nice and knowledgeable. i talked to him and even he didnt have anything good to say about the sales people. the parts dept is a joke. i asked about getting my bike dynoed and they quoted 3 hrs to install their SE tuner and 10 hrs for the dyno. and they would only do it if i bought stuff there. and any time i have gone in for a part i have to look it up on my phone and tell them the part number or they can never find anything. plus some of the parts guys treat you like your an idiot for even asking a question. the merchandise girls are nice but no one walking around to help. if you need something you have to go search them out. so unless you just have to get something there i would recommend going somewhere else.
That's the sick love/hate relationship we all live in the HD world. I love Harley's (and motorcycles in general) as much if not more than the next guy, but absolutely HATE this corporate Harley mentality. Problem is, you can't blame them for capitalizing on everyone's love for the bike. You could only hope that such an "American" company would someday see the monetary issues people are going through, lower their prices and stigma of "they will pay to play" attitude, and allow more people to enjoy it. It makes more sense to me to sell 25 $10 items than 3 $50 items but what do I know???
Like everyone else said, let that stealership kiss your *** and move on to one that appreciates your business. That's the other nice thing about America, they aren't the only ones around. Internet brother! Good luck
That's the sick love/hate relationship we all live in the HD world. I love Harley's (and motorcycles in general) as much if not more than the next guy, but absolutely HATE this corporate Harley mentality. Problem is, you can't blame them for capitalizing on everyone's love for the bike. You could only hope that such an "American" company would someday see the monetary issues people are going through, lower their prices and stigma of "they will pay to play" attitude, and allow more people to enjoy it. It makes more sense to me to sell 25 $10 items than 3 $50 items but what do I know???
Like everyone else said, let that stealership kiss your *** and move on to one that appreciates your business. That's the other nice thing about America, they aren't the only ones around. Internet brother! Good luck
I agree that Harley's are overpriced. So is Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porche, etc. You pay extra for the name. That said, Harley doesn't tell the dealers how much they have to sell the bike for or who they have to hire in the sales or parts departments. The dealers are independent businesses. I have one dealer 3 miles away, another 12 miles away (both have the same owner) and another 30 miles away. Any time I have to get something from the dealership, I go to the one 30 miles away because they understand customer service and don't act like I'm lucky they let me buy something.
Depending on which Dynamometer the shop in question owns, yes it could take about 10 hours to correctly tune one in. Some Dyno's, the older ones, are only capable of tuning in one cylinder at a time and when it's done that way, after it's been run through all the cycles and cool down periods on both jugs they have to try to tune them together as a unit the best they can. Find another Dealer with a more up-to -date machine.
Going to a STEALER just plain sucks..I am happy that I am SMART enough not to go for any reason...Support your local INDY....
I guess that depends on what dealership you are dealing with. I'm happy with mine (so far), & as long as they continue to treat me right I'll continue to do business there.
I've found that if you walk into a store - any store - with a chip on your shoulder & a clear aversion for being there, the attitude shown to you will probably be less congenial than if you appear approachable.
If the absolute most important thing to you is the lowest cost, that day, for that item - then a dealership may not be where you want to be.
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