Most important?---NO MILEAGE v. Whatever you have!!!

 

Yes you can.

Every painted part comes off, and can be replaced with NEW Vivid Black parts.

My old boss did that.... and IIRC, sold his tins for way more than he paid for the new black ones.


My advice, do NOT test ride a '15 unless you are sure you want to buy.

 

That's probably very good advice.

 

That. As I told another forum member and friend, the whole is more than the sum of it's parts. This becomes very apparent the minute you ride one. He ended up buying a 14 CVO.

I traded my 11 Ultra with a 107 in on my 14 SGS. The numbers don't really translate to real world use. My stock SGS would easily run with my 107. With some very minor changes (pipes, tune, A/C) the new 103 can put out more power yet.

As far as 103 vs 107 vs 110 - we're not talking a lot of difference. It really comes down to what was done to enhance performance on each bike.

 

Ya, I hear ya... I certainly won't buy something I have never test drove, so I for sure am going to take one for a test ride as soon as one of the shops here have a demo day. If what you're saying is solid advice then there must be a great difference, and if that is the case then I have no issue upgrading.

 

So you don't notice much of a difference between your stock SGS 103 and the 107 on your ultra? I would think you would not notice much of a difference between a stock 110 and your 107, but there seems to be a big enough difference between the 107 and stock 103 that I would think you would notice a decent difference. Guess when I take one for a ride, I'll see.

Bottom line... I need to take one of the new bikes for a ride. I'd like to take one of the 110's for a ride also, just to compare.

 

Better yet, instead of waiting for a demo day, how about just renting one for a day? You could ride the hell out of it on one of your familiar rides, and get a real comparison.

 

Ask a dealer...

I thought their policy, well I know it WAS, you could go in and demo any bike on the floor...

No need to wait for a demo day.

 

I would do this in a heartbeat. It would give you a real world comparison to your bike. Also some dealers will "credit" you the rental is you buy a bike afterward.

And some dealers owners ride "dealer" bikes (their toy without paying for it) that maybe available for an extended test ride. I personally would not buy a bike without a test ride. And not just around the block.

 

It all depends on the dealer. I would rent for the main reason that you can take the whole day to test the bike. Some dealers will "lead" you on a short ride around the area. To me, that's not enough to show the strengths of the Rushmore design fully. As mentioned, a friend of mine bought a 14 CVO. But, he didn't buy the bike on it's road feel - he bought it on faith as they typically don't allow test rides on those. He did test ride a 103 and came away feeling that it was a dog, which surprised me. But in speaking with him, I learned that he just followed the dealer around. That doesn't do that motor justice as I feel they shifted the power band a bit north from the 110 CVO he was used to riding. Had he been able to open it up a bit, I think he would have been more impressed.

Good luck getting them to let you ride a CVO.

But to answer your questions - there was definitely a difference in how the power was delivered between the 103 and the 107. My 107 had more low end grunt. The 103 was happiest above 2500 RPMs. When I 1st rode the SGS, I described it as a Honda Davidson - which wasn't an insult. It was smoother than my 107 and revved more freely. I really enjoyed running it up to 5500 RPMs and didn't really feel a sharp power curve drop off. In fact, the motor was so smooth (and quiet with the stock exhaust) that sometimes I had to peek at the tach to shift.

So in the end, it's just different, and imo, better. And remember what I said - power delivery is just one aspect of the many changes made. That Infotainment system wasn't a selling point to me at all. But now that I have it, I love it. Anyway, I did the math on what I would need to do to improve my 11 Ultra to approximate the performance of the Rushmore bike vs the trade in difference vs the resale value of each bike 3 or 4 years down the road. The suspension work alone was enough to abandon the idea of upgrading the Ultra further, and my decision was made.

As far as power of the 103 vs 110 - HP = 103" 76.40HP 90.20TQ VS
110" 84.80HP 98.94TQ

This is from Fuel Moto dyno runs on stock bikes.

I would submit that, depending on the bike, those numbers can vary and that a strong 103 will be very close to a weak 110. Regardless, with some simple tuning, both will run faster and stronger and the difference between the 2 after tune will be minimal in the real world, and less than the numbers might indicate. A simple rider weight differential could even the 2 out.

In other words, I wouldn't buy a 110 bike for more power. I would buy it because it's a CVO and has all the options.