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All good quality suspension should be serviced regularly. When they service it, they drain the oil and check all parts for wear. Why do they change the oil ... same reason you change the oil in your motor. To remove the old oil which is now full of impurities. When you don't change your fork or shock oil it basicaly turns into liquid sandpaper. This inturn wears out any interior componentthe oilcomes in contact with. Orifices/seals/o ringsgetwornand go out of spec.which inturn affects how the shock/fork works. Most rider don't recognize the wear because it happens slowly over time. Trust me on this. my dirt forks get an oil change 2X a year. If I was more **** i would do it 3 to 4x a year. It makes a huge difference in howthe forks feel. Very very noticable.
I would be interested in seeing what the inside of those 106k mile forks looked like. I bet if you saw what came out of those forks you would have crapped yourself!!
I did see what came out of them every 10k miles. The only problem I had with forks or shocks on the 106k RK was one fork seal that blew two months before I traded in the bike. I pulled the fork apart myself and the bushing and internal parts looked new, and I saw no wear anywhere inside the fork, but that was the right side only. The left was never serviced except in 1998 when I installed chrome lower legs, although I have no reason to believe it was any worse off. I was religious about fork oil changes, however, doing that every 10k miles, and the fluid never looked particularly dirty when changed. The rear shocks were never serviced and I noticed no deterioration of their performance even though the Works rep said I was "riding on springs," which insults my intelligence the more I think of it! It's interesting to note that '07 forks require fork oil changes only every 50k. I'm sure I'll do it more often than that, though, even though it isn't nearly as easy as it was with the old front air forks. Using a vacuum pump, it was a 15-min. job for both sides.
I'm not really a roadie so I will defer to what others have said on the change interval. My 07 egs is still stock. what ever i end up putting on it will be rebuildable and I will get it serviced on a regular basis. Probably once every 2 yrs or 20K miles which ever comes first.
I don't think you can compare motocross and road application, and I can readily see where the former would require much more frequent service.
Most people don't screw with suspension on thier road bikes because they don't keep them long enough to really worry about it. Plus unless they ride endless wash board dirt roads, smooth pavement makes bad suspension less obvious.
I avoided dirt roads like the plague. Too hard to clean the chrome, you know.
The shocks you sent back were most likely fine. However it seems to me that the guy on the other end of the line should have done a better job of explaining shock/fork maintainance. Sounds like you were more turn off by arrogance then anything else. In My book that is enough to tell someone to go pound sand!! I hope you get your 20% back but don't be turned off by suspension that needs to be serviced!! Servicing suspensionis agood thing!!!
I very much disliked the arrogance, especially at the condescension that he was the "shock expert" (his words) and my experience over decades as an enthusiast were irrelevant. Further insult followed when he suggested my present car and old RK were "riding on springs." Ludicrous, and that's an insult to my alleged prowress as an long-time enthusiast. (Some tongue in cheek here, but not much.) Not revealing important company policies like restocking fees was another glaring faux pas, although I'll admit I may have been a bit naive in my belief th
i bought some Works shocks for my streetrod....not a bad product, BUT their customer service sucks!!!!! i will NEVER buy from them again! can you say liars!
Without discounting the circumstances surrounding the inspiration for this thread, I've never had a company with any more articulate service than Works when it came to getting the product specific to my application. They are committed to getting their product perfect for you and how you ride. If you want perfection, there are not many other options. Progressive isn't in the same league.
I need to say one more thing about Work Performance. When I got my shocks, they were too stiff. I was well past my my 30 day performance guarantee (probably more like 45 days). I called them anyway and told them the situation. They had me send them back and they reworked them for free,,, no questions asked. I get them back the same week...They were sent 2 day shipping in both directions (on my dime of course). They didnt have to fix them for free but they did.
So, sorry that happened to Iclick, but Ionly have good things to say about their product and customer service.
If you want to get results, you need to talk to the person who can get things done. Try getting in touch with this guy and let him know what's going on.
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WORKS PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS, INC.
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I bought a set of Works back in the 80's for a dirt bike.I can say they are a quality product.
Shocks do wear out over time.Some you throw away,some you rebuild.You paid for a quality set of rebuildable shocks.
Maybe the Works can last longer than what the co. says.Can anyone testify to this?
I think the company could have been more up front about the restocking fee from what I'm reading.
As an update, my CC company quickly credited my account for the $97.92 "restocking fee" imposed by Works. The problem is that Works hasn't posted a credit for the remainder as they said they would, so the problem lingers on. After the response I received from the CC company, I'm not worried about getting the rest credited, even if I have to protest them again. I can't believe the poor CS demeanor this outfit has shown in this case. They were very quick debiting my account when I bought the shocks.
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