Difference in Tuner will be noticed?
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Difference in Tuner will be noticed?
So currently I am running a Big Sucker, Decatted HEad pipe. CFR pipes, and a set of FL-Xied (adjustable)
I still get decel pop, and by all means the bike feels like ot runs fine, but I have always felt the need to just bite the bullet and buy a PV-1.
Don't ever plan on doing more than a stage one to the bike, but do plan on changing the headpipe eventually down the road to a less restrictive pipe and possible true dual set up.
If i take off the XIED and drop the coin on a PV-1 , will I notice a difference ? or am i wasting the money ?
Also- for those of you who have the PV-1, do you use the unit screen mounted for display, or is it too bulky?
Ive been reading a lot about this and not sure if anyone has ever boght the XIED and later removed them for a tuner and then made a comment about any difference that was made -
Thanks all i advance!
I still get decel pop, and by all means the bike feels like ot runs fine, but I have always felt the need to just bite the bullet and buy a PV-1.
Don't ever plan on doing more than a stage one to the bike, but do plan on changing the headpipe eventually down the road to a less restrictive pipe and possible true dual set up.
If i take off the XIED and drop the coin on a PV-1 , will I notice a difference ? or am i wasting the money ?
Also- for those of you who have the PV-1, do you use the unit screen mounted for display, or is it too bulky?
Ive been reading a lot about this and not sure if anyone has ever boght the XIED and later removed them for a tuner and then made a comment about any difference that was made -
Thanks all i advance!
Tourer
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Not the same, but I had a Power Commander and was not totally impressed. First mistake was not ordering from Fuel Moto with the map already programed. Once that was dialed in, I got a lot of decal pop (Bassani 2-1, SE AC).
Bit the bullet and bought a TTS along with a Dyno. There was a noticeable difference between the two. A TTS or SERT gives you more input for dialing in the tuner and making sure that your bike is running the best it can.
Price wise, it was expensive. If you can only swing the PV, go for it. Just make sure you order from a quality shop that can back you up if need be. Scouring the internet for maps is not fun at all.
Bit the bullet and bought a TTS along with a Dyno. There was a noticeable difference between the two. A TTS or SERT gives you more input for dialing in the tuner and making sure that your bike is running the best it can.
Price wise, it was expensive. If you can only swing the PV, go for it. Just make sure you order from a quality shop that can back you up if need be. Scouring the internet for maps is not fun at all.
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What will make the difference is the tune that you flash onto the bike using the PV, not the PV itself. If you buy a PV from Fuel Moto, they will load it with a map that was the result of a dyno tune using your parts (or closest approximation), and if you still have decel popping they will work with you to adjust it.
Another option is the Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, which accepts Power Commander maps (which again Fuel Moto will give you, lifetime)
Its only $200.
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28236-f...efi-tuner.html
Another option is the Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, which accepts Power Commander maps (which again Fuel Moto will give you, lifetime)
Its only $200.
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28236-f...efi-tuner.html
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What will make the difference is the tune that you flash onto the bike using the PV, not the PV itself. If you buy a PV from Fuel Moto, they will load it with a map that was the result of a dyno tune using your parts (or closest approximation), and if you still have decel popping they will work with you to adjust it.
Another option is the Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, which accepts Power Commander maps (which again Fuel Moto will give you, lifetime)
Its only $200.
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28236-f...efi-tuner.html
Another option is the Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, which accepts Power Commander maps (which again Fuel Moto will give you, lifetime)
Its only $200.
http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28236-f...efi-tuner.html
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I may be totally wrong on this but......doesn't the Micro Tuner function the same as the Vied? I'm aware the Xied is not adjustable whereas the Vied is, and isn't that all the Micro Tuner is. Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm debating over replacing my Vied for a PC-V and not considering the Micro because of its similar functions as the Vied.
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I may be totally wrong on this but......doesn't the Micro Tuner function the same as the Vied? I'm aware the Xied is not adjustable whereas the Vied is, and isn't that all the Micro Tuner is. Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm debating over replacing my Vied for a PC-V and not considering the Micro because of its similar functions as the Vied.
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If I'm not mistaken The micro tuner will NOT adjust spark advance It like the V(x)ied is just a fuelie !? So in that regared they are the same Please correct me if I am wrong !!
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vied will only add fuel when the ecm is in closed loop mode and its an across the board %,the micro tuner can add more or less fuel at different rpm and throttle positions but it forces the ecm into open loop mode.
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It does whatever a power commander map will do. And besides, spark advance isnt the entirety of what a map or tuner does anyway. Why are people so fixated on that?
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From: GO BUCKS
set up
decatted headers
CFR slip on
stock intake
PCV
Installed the PCV this evening and its a noticeable difference I think. At start up its a tad different sound, little to no decel popping, deeper rumble with the cfr! Previously without the PCV the cfr seemed quiet and not as much rumble. Possibly will do an air take
decatted headers
CFR slip on
stock intake
PCV
Installed the PCV this evening and its a noticeable difference I think. At start up its a tad different sound, little to no decel popping, deeper rumble with the cfr! Previously without the PCV the cfr seemed quiet and not as much rumble. Possibly will do an air take