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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I wish the MSF course could work onreal life road skills. The slow speed stuff is important, and they do touch on some skills for the road, howeverIMO, passing the course does not make you ready for riding at speed and in traffic.

I think the bestand safest way is to take the MSF then hook up with an experienced rider for many miles.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Always sad to hear things like this. But it is like everything else. You have to have respect for the bike. If you do not have it or get so experienced you loose it, you better not ride. Many don`t look at it this way but it has worked for me for over 100,000 miles on 2 wheels. Respect the ride and the fact that the little girl on the cell phone is not going to look before pulling out in front of you. My condolences to his family.

As always....Ride Safe,

Mike
 
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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My condolences to the family also, Until last Spring, I have not ridden in 30 years. A good friend of mine and my Neurosurgeon strongly suggested I take a basic MSF course. I completed it early last spring, then bought my new ultra that weekend. 10,000 miles later I,m still learning. In the famous words of one of my MSF instructors, This is not a race. DAN
 
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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I fully agree with the MSF class. My 2002 Firefighter Edition Road King was my first Motorcycle. I took the MSF course about a month before my Road King arrived. I know that things taught in that class helped my make it through my first 2000 miles. I plan on repeating the class again in a few years. I too am LEO and Firefighter, it's tough when other brothers both in Red and Blue ride without helmets. After what we have seen over the years. I dont say anything to them, I just put on all of my safety gear. I never ride without my helmet,glasses, boots and even my mesh jacket with armor in it.

Jeff
 
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Bummer... ride safe guys and gals...
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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I wish the MSF course could work on real life road skills. The slow speed stuff is important, and they do touch on some skills for the road, however IMO, passing the course does not make you ready for riding at speed and in traffic.

I think the best and safest way is to take the MSF then hook up with an experienced rider for many miles.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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From what I read earlier it appears to me that SPEED is the common thread here. SLOW DOWN! Speed kills, not curves. Maybe it is experience that teaches a rider how to do a curve. Before I had my sidecar, I found that it was possible, but hard to make myself lean the bike on down, low in a curve. If you go in too fast and make the tires bite, you just might make it out. I bet you'll slow down then. Trust your tires to grip. but also pray there is no gravel, sand, or leaves in your path.

Ride safe and slow it down.

Hack
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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Thats why I took delivery of my new Ultra April 4th, had the MSF basic rider course scheduled for the 6th to the 8th and did NOT get on the bike except to learn switchology until after the course was completed.

Wanted to use their bikes to get my rust off and to get my head straight before hitting the streets on a new bike.

600 miles and i am starting to get comfortable with it. maybe 600 more and we will have reached that level of understanding that a rider needs with his machine.

Be safe out there
 
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Been a Firefighter for over 34 years - I may get flamed here but I truly believe ALL new riders should be required to have M/C rider saftey Before being able to buy and ride...
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