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After reading about 30 or more answers, my head is spinning with all the info put out...which is a good thing if you can keep up...I can't.
Someone please answer this (somewhat simple) question. I just bought a 2010 Ultra from a friend and he had used synthetic since new. It now has 27,000 + and I am going to change everything myself. (crankcase, primary and trans). What would the best synthetic be for all 3? I'll only say that the bike does not shift well (clunks) into every gear. I know that may come from clutch adjustment though. Thanks
Napa 20w50 or 10w60 synthetic
Any company 75/140 synthetic gear lube,
10w40 motor oil in primary (any brand, cheaper the better)
The Shell Rotella T6 not T5 or just Rotella is a syn oil spec'd for wet clutches. When you talk about Rotella you must identify the specific version. All squares are rectangles not all rectangles are squares.
I use it in all my bikes now from a Street 750 to a 120R. Walmart has it in 4 qt. containers for under $20. If it did not work with a HD wet clutch it would show up in a clutch being challenged with a 120R. All Shell employees that have HD's use T6. I have talked to many at various semi truck shows over the years where Shell brings in a display and reps. Of course they get it cheap.
Good enough for 600HP diesel engines good enough for a Briggs and Stratton Harley Davidson.
Yup, I only wish they made it in a 20w50 and I would use it in our summer months. I'm considering using the T formula exclusively at my next oil change.
I run it in my dirt bike engines and transmissions missions and have never had any issues and there is no way you abuse your Harley as much as my four stroke turning 10,000 rpm is.
So, no one is running O'Reilly's 30 weight oil in their primaries? What's so different about twin cam primaries from the earlier EVOs? It's only splash lubrication for the chain and clutch.
I use Rotella 15/40 Diesel oil in my primary and also use it in T-5 transmissions like in mustangs and S-10's. I worked at Jasper Engines for quite a while (no throwing wrenches) and when we started rebuilding these, the 5th gear headset would burn up on a lot of them. We determined that due to the factory recommended oil, ATF, if you are pulling a heavy load in 5th gear, whether it is a trailer, or ton of bricks in the bed, or foot in the pedal, it would, by how the gear train is designed, put excessive heat on the rear gear set (actually outside the case in the extension housing) and burn up 5th gear. By testing, we found 15/40 diesel engine oil, such at Rotella, would prevent overheating of the head set. Take that for what it is worth.
And after all that, I still run Wal-Mart Tech 20W-50 at $2.69 qt. Have been now for 151,000 miles. Still running the original clutch, plates and all, primary chain and M-6 tensioner. I think you'll be fine OP
Originally Posted by mikeo33y
wow. i guess this guy blows the whole expensive quality oil debate right out of the water.
I use Rotella 15/40 Diesel oil in my primary and also use it in T-5 transmissions like in mustangs and S-10's. I worked at Jasper Engines for quite a while (no throwing wrenches) and when we started rebuilding these, the 5th gear headset would burn up on a lot of them. We determined that due to the factory recommended oil, ATF, if you are pulling a heavy load in 5th gear, whether it is a trailer, or ton of bricks in the bed, or foot in the pedal, it would, by how the gear train is designed, put excessive heat on the rear gear set (actually outside the case in the extension housing) and burn up 5th gear. By testing, we found 15/40 diesel engine oil, such at Rotella, would prevent overheating of the head set. Take that for what it is worth.
I knew a man that built manual transmissions many years. He agreed with the above that the ATF did not cut it in the 5 speeds, He said run 10w40 oil in the trans in place of the factory ATF and all will remain well. This was proven over and over again. He would boldly mark this on the side of the trans case.
Lots of options for lubes in the primary, another key is to keep it changed. I change all 3 holes at no more than 5 K miles, I can't see why anyone would go 10 K or more in any one of them.
I knew a man that built manual transmissions many years. He agreed with the above that the ATF did not cut it in the 5 speeds, He said run 10w40 oil in the trans in place of the factory ATF and all will remain well. This was proven over and over again. He would boldly mark this on the side of the trans case.
Lots of options for lubes in the primary, another key is to keep it changed. I change all 3 holes at no more than 5 K miles, I can't see why anyone would go 10 K or more in any one of them.
I've got my primary on 2k intervals since day one, it's a pressure cooker in there and even 5k is insane.....for me.
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