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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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Time for a new scoot ......
 
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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as pointed out above the 2014 models got a cam and a higher flow air cleaner (compared to earlier models)

the 2014 has about 5% more power than a 2013...the twincool motor adds about another 5%.

( Dyno charts can be seen in the 2014 model year technical forum comparing 2012, 2014, 2014 twincool )


OP you have a "tuner".
That doesn't automatically guarantee good results.
I've seen plenty of bikes with power commanders that run crap.

it depends on which settings are entered by the "tuner"


and what exhaust do you have? that's a big variable

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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 04:26 PM
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Every time someone brags about how their bike is faster than mine, I give them all the very same answer......."I don't care." Works for me. If people want a "fast" motorcycle, they bought the wrong bike.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Its not that I care, I wanted to make sure $1800 in stage 1 parts wasn't a waste. I knew 14 had different cams and didn't think torque was much difference, 5ftlb. On the bright side, mine sounds a lot better,,,losing
 
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by btsom
I believe '14 was the year the factory cam was changed to deliver more low end pull as part of the Rushmore program. The mods weren't just for the Steaming Eagles.


These bikes (14s) are way better stock than the older models. I rode one and could easily feel the performance difference.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nytryder
These bikes (14s) are way better stock than the older models. I rode one and could easily feel the performance difference.
I'll keep my 13 SG. I have put a lot of money into it. I have 57h cams sitting on the shelf waiting for install, one day.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2015 | 07:23 AM
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I have a friend with a 2014 Limited bone stock and I have a 2013 Limited with decatted headpipe, slipons, AC, and PowerCommander 5. I can't tell any difference in the performance of the two. We appear to appear to be just about equally powered. We don't race or anything, this is just based on riding many, many miles together under all kinds of conditions.

The dyno runs I have seen indicate that the Rushmore stock has just about the same power as the regular 103 with stage 1.

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Old Nov 17, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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'14s have better cam and air cleaner. Yes better than a stage 1 '13.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2015 | 03:56 PM
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Yes the 14s are stronger than the 13s, for reasons mentioned above. Now if you want to see if your stage one was worth it run a stock 13.

We're you able to see Dyno sheet difference on your bike?
Or seat of the pants Dyno difference? Cooler/smoother running machine?
 
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