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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Not a big deal. Winter boredom set in and I started to wonder just how does the security system work. I went to ride my 10 FLHTK the other day and the security wouldn't let it start. I pulled the fob battery and checked voltage, knowing it was less than a year old, and got full 3.02 volts. So I rubbed the battery on my jeans and put it back in and sure enough it let me ride all day.

That got me wondering if anyone knows how the system works. Does the FOB send out a signal every once in a while or does the bike send out a signal periodically looking for the response from the FOB? So in other words the FOB just listens most of the time and when it hears a request, from the bike, it sends a signal that says I'm here.
The latter scenario seems to make more sense from battery longevity stand point.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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It's my understanding that the bike sends a signal to the FOB when the bike is moved, or the ignition is turned on. The FOB then responds, and the security system disarms.

If it was the other way around, your FOB battery wouldn't last as long. Receivers don't use as much power as transmitters.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I have been wiping them off for years. They last several years.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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The way I understood it to be is that the bike is always monitoring for that fob to come within range. The fob is always powered I believe, that being said I have had it happen to me where the bike doesn't pick it up right away so I could be wrong on this.....
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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Yes the bike will not pick it up at times, especially if you are close to something like an IR switch, such as the entry doors to some stores.

While this hasn't happened to me as of yet I have read where some have had actually roll there bikes away from the building in order to eliminate the interference.

I believe the FOB actually acts like an antenna, which is tuned to a specific frequency, when close enough to the bike's emitter the fob completes the security circuit.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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The two work in unison.
The fob is a "Proximity Emitter".
I replace my battery ever odd number year (Two years), get 'em on Amazon on the cheap.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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From this section of the wiring diagram (2008 Touring) it appears that the HFSM transmits to and receives a signal from the fob. At least that's my guess.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rusty289
The way I understood it to be is that the bike is always monitoring for that fob to come within range.
Originally Posted by TheGrandPoohBah
The fob is a "Proximity Emitter".
Me thinks the security transceiver in the bike is always monitoring and sending a signal. When the FOB is within range of the signal, it activates and sends a compatible signal. This goes on constantly within this range (about 10ft). Out of range and the FOB stops sending.

Someone can chime in on that.
 

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Originally Posted by HardRider1

While this hasn't happened to me as of yet I have read where some have had actually roll there bikes away from the building in order to eliminate the interference.
you can alleviate this situation quite easily. change, set and learn your pin code. it is a lot easier to push buttons with your thumbs than it is to push your bike around a parking lot...... jmo
 
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Originally Posted by skratch
you can alleviate this situation quite easily. change, set and learn your pin code. it is a lot easier to push buttons with your thumbs than it is to push your bike around a parking lot...... jmo


 
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