Power Vision PV-2 Map Questions
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Power Vision PV-2 Map Questions
Hey all,
I have a stock '14 Road King. With the help of a Dynojet rep over the phone, I installed the Power Vision PV-2 yesterday. I plan to install a Dragula 2 (2:1) exhaust as soon as $$ possible. I may replace the stock AC filter with a K&N, however, I read on the forum that many think the stock AC housing/filter provides adequate airflow, and that a aftermarket high-flow AC is not necessary for Stage 1. I don't frequently ride over 4,500 RPMs... I'm usually cruising in the 2,400-3,600 RPM range with occasional short bursts to higher RPMs.
The Dynojet rep recommended I flash my ECM with their "Stock Improved" map "15T103a00101" in the meantime, which we did. Once the Dragula 2 is installed, he recommended the map on their website for the 'Jackpot 2:1' which is "15T103a02404". I heard that Drago also offers a map for their exhaust with purchase.
The rep confirmed I should run Auto Tune Basic (AT) for the current map, and for any future maps installed. I plan to run the AT this weekend on the current map when I have the time for a ride.
I live in eastern PA, about an hour north of Phila. Is anyone else in my region with a "stock" and/or similar 2:1 set-up running these maps? If so, what has been your experience after running Auto Tune Basic??
Lastly, I asked the rep about saving my 'stock' ECM map to one of the 8 'save' locations on the PV-2. I saved the ".stk" file for my stock ECM to my PC. The rep said it wasn't necessary to save the stock .stk file to one of the 8 'save' locations on the PV-2. I'm new to this. Can someone confirm that the stock ECM .stk file is indeed the stock map? Also, can/should I save the stock .stk file to the PV-2 device at this time, or just leave it on my PC for future reference, if needed?
Appreciate the advice/recommendations. Thanks all...
Regards
I have a stock '14 Road King. With the help of a Dynojet rep over the phone, I installed the Power Vision PV-2 yesterday. I plan to install a Dragula 2 (2:1) exhaust as soon as $$ possible. I may replace the stock AC filter with a K&N, however, I read on the forum that many think the stock AC housing/filter provides adequate airflow, and that a aftermarket high-flow AC is not necessary for Stage 1. I don't frequently ride over 4,500 RPMs... I'm usually cruising in the 2,400-3,600 RPM range with occasional short bursts to higher RPMs.
The Dynojet rep recommended I flash my ECM with their "Stock Improved" map "15T103a00101" in the meantime, which we did. Once the Dragula 2 is installed, he recommended the map on their website for the 'Jackpot 2:1' which is "15T103a02404". I heard that Drago also offers a map for their exhaust with purchase.
The rep confirmed I should run Auto Tune Basic (AT) for the current map, and for any future maps installed. I plan to run the AT this weekend on the current map when I have the time for a ride.
I live in eastern PA, about an hour north of Phila. Is anyone else in my region with a "stock" and/or similar 2:1 set-up running these maps? If so, what has been your experience after running Auto Tune Basic??
Lastly, I asked the rep about saving my 'stock' ECM map to one of the 8 'save' locations on the PV-2. I saved the ".stk" file for my stock ECM to my PC. The rep said it wasn't necessary to save the stock .stk file to one of the 8 'save' locations on the PV-2. I'm new to this. Can someone confirm that the stock ECM .stk file is indeed the stock map? Also, can/should I save the stock .stk file to the PV-2 device at this time, or just leave it on my PC for future reference, if needed?
Appreciate the advice/recommendations. Thanks all...
Regards
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Any helpful, or pertinent comments JMC22...??
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I have a PV2 and I can tell you that running Auto Tune Basic is a good way to go.
Do multiple runs, probably about than 10, of short duration - 15 - 30 minutes.
After each run, if the bike is running better, save the tune to a slot and re-flash
Try to fill as many of the 'cells' as you can. This is easier to do on a dyno and essentially impossible to do without. However, just try to get as many as you can
It helps if you do these runs on roads with little or no traffic because you'll probably be spending time looking at the PV screen instead of the road.
Also, be aware that Auto Tune only adjusts the VE tables.
All other adjustments, which you probably should not do, are done manually. The tune you downloaded probably has some of these adjustments, so is a very good place to start
The .stk tune is indeed your stock tune. I have it saved in one of my slots just because I wanted to make very sure I didn't lose it. PC's have a way of munching out
One last thing. Have you visited the "Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection" section on this site? There is quite a lot of info there concerning PV
Do multiple runs, probably about than 10, of short duration - 15 - 30 minutes.
After each run, if the bike is running better, save the tune to a slot and re-flash
Try to fill as many of the 'cells' as you can. This is easier to do on a dyno and essentially impossible to do without. However, just try to get as many as you can
It helps if you do these runs on roads with little or no traffic because you'll probably be spending time looking at the PV screen instead of the road.
Also, be aware that Auto Tune only adjusts the VE tables.
All other adjustments, which you probably should not do, are done manually. The tune you downloaded probably has some of these adjustments, so is a very good place to start
The .stk tune is indeed your stock tune. I have it saved in one of my slots just because I wanted to make very sure I didn't lose it. PC's have a way of munching out
One last thing. Have you visited the "Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection" section on this site? There is quite a lot of info there concerning PV
Last edited by semiret; Jul 22, 2016 at 04:18 PM.
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Hey semiret,
Thanks for your reply and advice, and for confirming the .stk file is my stock tune.
I did do a little reading in the "Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection" section. There is one very long thread on the PV. Lots of good info there, much of which is over my head at this point. I'm interested in learning more, so I plan to do more reading.
I hope to get out this weekend to do the initial Auto Tune on the "Stock Improved" map from Dynojet. I was planning to go out for 2-3 hours, and do a mixed ride including rural backroads and highway/interstate blasts just to give the PV some diverse riding conditions. I assume mixing up the ride/RPMs/gears/speed/conditions will fill as many of the PV cells as possible. I want to ensure the "Stock Improved" tune is running OK for now.
You indicated that you did several runs of 15-30 minute duration. Is there any benefit of doing several shorter runs vs. longer run times with varied riding conditions? I assume you've done the shorter runs to vary your riding conditions.
Once I get the 2:1 exhaust installed, I'll re-map and then spend time Auto Tuning the new map. Hopefully, I'll have 2-3 maps to try once the exhaust is installed.
Thanks for your advice/help...
Thanks for your reply and advice, and for confirming the .stk file is my stock tune.
I did do a little reading in the "Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection" section. There is one very long thread on the PV. Lots of good info there, much of which is over my head at this point. I'm interested in learning more, so I plan to do more reading.
I hope to get out this weekend to do the initial Auto Tune on the "Stock Improved" map from Dynojet. I was planning to go out for 2-3 hours, and do a mixed ride including rural backroads and highway/interstate blasts just to give the PV some diverse riding conditions. I assume mixing up the ride/RPMs/gears/speed/conditions will fill as many of the PV cells as possible. I want to ensure the "Stock Improved" tune is running OK for now.
You indicated that you did several runs of 15-30 minute duration. Is there any benefit of doing several shorter runs vs. longer run times with varied riding conditions? I assume you've done the shorter runs to vary your riding conditions.
Once I get the 2:1 exhaust installed, I'll re-map and then spend time Auto Tuning the new map. Hopefully, I'll have 2-3 maps to try once the exhaust is installed.
Thanks for your advice/help...
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Really JMC22?? Are you a promo for FM?? As a matter of fact, I did speak at length with FM reps before buying the PV-2. I'm well aware that they are a forum sponsor. While I think their Jackpot 2:1 is nice exhaust, and gave it careful consideration, I prefer the Dragula 2 at present. Otherwise, I would have purchased the PV-2/Jackpot package deal from FM. Also, I purchased the PV-2 from an HD dealer with HD credit card points. I assume FM does not accept HD cc points...
Any helpful, or pertinent comments JMC22...??
Helpful feedback sincerely appreciated...
Any helpful, or pertinent comments JMC22...??
Helpful feedback sincerely appreciated...
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Once you have copied the .stk file to your computer (and maybe a second device for backup) you can safely delete it from the PV. Hopefully you will never need it.
The original map can be retrieved from the PV in .pvt form at any time, I believe it is:
Program Vehicle > Load Tune > Load Copy > Original
A little advice for a new PV user:
a good habit to get into when hooking the PV to the computer is to first plug the mini USB connection into the PV, place the unit down within reach of the computer, then plug the USB cable into the computer.
If you plug the cable in first and happen to be pushing that little red button when plugging in the PV, it will put the PV in Recovery Mode. Keep your fat fingers away from that little red button!
The original map can be retrieved from the PV in .pvt form at any time, I believe it is:
Program Vehicle > Load Tune > Load Copy > Original
A little advice for a new PV user:
a good habit to get into when hooking the PV to the computer is to first plug the mini USB connection into the PV, place the unit down within reach of the computer, then plug the USB cable into the computer.
If you plug the cable in first and happen to be pushing that little red button when plugging in the PV, it will put the PV in Recovery Mode. Keep your fat fingers away from that little red button!
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PV makes relatively small changes to the VE tables for each auto tune run. So once you have hit as many of the cells as you can, you won't be gaining much doing the auto tune rune for 2 - 3 hours as you would with the shorter runs.
In other words, one 2 hour auto tune run does not equal four 30 minute runs
For your 2 - 3 hour runs, perhaps you could go for 30 minutes, flash the changed map and do another 30 minute run.