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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 08:06 PM
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2011 SG 96ci 15000 miles

Out of no where it seemed to slip in 5th gear only, I hammered down in all other gears it was fine, changed primary fluid adjusted clutch and cable still "slipping"

I've been doing research on it and I've herd it could be some trap door bearing causing axle serge or something, also read I can put in a SE spring

So is there an actual fix for this? Or just get the spring and hope for the best
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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I had the same issue a couple years ago. I was using a synthetic oil in primary. I changed it back to HD Formula+ & that solved the problem. My 2011 103 had the SE spring. Just my 2 cents.Good luck.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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Your clutch might be slipping, but 5th gear isn't slipping.

Manual transmission gears are not going to slip without making a gawd awful racket, and causing extreme damage.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 09:50 PM
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If you've adjusted everything and still get slip then you could try a heavier spring but it's probably only a temporary fix. New clutches aren't that expensive and not hard to replace.
I recently put in an Energy One +1 Kevlar clutch pack with a heavy spring. I used Formula + at E1's reccomendation and it's rock solid. I never realized how much the old one was slipping until I put this one in as I only noticed it once in a while in 5th or 6th gear.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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its the clutch, depending how long or how often it may already be burnt. try adjusting some more and get anything synthetic out of the primary. if that doesn't do it heavier spring will do the trick if its not burnt.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 10:51 PM
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Switching to the SE spring fixed my 5th gear slipping issue.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 06:10 AM
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The gears are always in mesh. When you shift, a 'dog' slides into the selected gear set and locks it to the shaft. It's either completely in gear or out of gear? Check the external linkage first. Clutch slippage will occur in the higher gears first - in this case, 6th.


Jack the bike up and manually turn the rear wheel while shifting up and down through the gears. If it is the linkage then it will become obvious.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 07:15 AM
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Thanks guys, it's definitely in gear just have to be easy on the throttle, I have a hard time believing the clutch is bad no noises no chatter it feels good you can hammer down in 6th (and any other gear besides 5th) in any rpm range and no slippage! Never slipped in 6th, I'm going to try the spring and get Ridd of the synthetic that's in there now

I would just get a new clutch but I've been doing a lot of research on this, seems like people get a new cluch and the problem still exists, problem being a trap door bearing and I have no idea what that is, heavier spring being the fix I guess
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 08:51 AM
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I have a hard time believing it's your clutch spring. Sounds like a simple clutch adjustment to me. If it were me, I'd do a clutch adjustment, get rid of the synthetic and see if it's not corrected. Then if the problem is still there, take your clutch out and do an inspection, replace components as necessary. I don't recommend just throwing parts at it in hopes it gets fixed.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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From what I can tell the "trap door" bearings support the main and secondary transmission shafts on the side opposite side of the main drive . How in the world that could cause slippage is beyond me. If you have a problem with those bearings then you may need to consider a trans rebuild.
You're certainly welcome to try a stronger spring but it's just a bandaid not a fix for either a slipping clutch or failing bearings.
 
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