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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ORradtech
I have yet to replace a derby cover gasket on mine or any friends I've worked on. Have reused the rubber rings and the full coverage ones. Just cleaned gasket and mating surfaces and good to go. Haven't had a leak yet.
Yup I agree with that one ^^^
I've never replaced one on any bike I've worked on.


You'll be fine unless it's damaged.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 07:17 PM
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I reuse the derby gasket every time.
One half round on the clutch, lock it down.
A nickel thickness of slack at the clutch handle when finished.
And, if my 'King DID NOT CLUNK when I put it in first, I would not leave the house on it!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 05:03 AM
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ok guess im looking for buggers that aren't there. hey if something breaks im covered with the extended policy.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 05:28 AM
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found this Neil while searching for preferred oil. = TThe oil is in there to pull heat from the primary drive chain and to lubricate the chain and clutch plates. I use an older grade of ATF (automatic transmission fluid) without the friction modifiers (type D or F). Dexron 3 is a no-no as it has the modifiers and will cause clutch slip under high load. I've talked to blokes who have over 100,000 miles on their primarys using nothing but ATF and have never had a failure.

I like ATF because car auto transmissions are full of wet clutch packs and chains as well. I get a great progressive clutch action with no slip using ATF but its entirely up to you what kind of oil you put in there and if there's any doubt in your mind whatsoever then get the harley recommended stuff.
he oil is in there to pull heat from the primary drive chain and to lubricate the chain and clutch plates. I use an older grade of ATF (automatic transmission fluid) without the friction modifiers (type D or F). Dexron 3 is a no-no as it has the modifiers and will cause clutch slip under high load. I've talked to blokes who have over 100,000 miles on their primarys using nothing but ATF and have never had a failure.

I like ATF because car auto transmissions are full of wet clutch packs and chains as well. I get a great progressive clutch action with no slip using ATF but its entirely up to you what kind of oil you put in there and if there's any doubt in your mind whatsoever then get the harley recommended stuff.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 07:15 AM
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something i dont understand is reading that if you back the allen screw out, say 1 & 1/2 turns you could get clutch slippage. seems it would be just the opposite. the more you back it out the less the clutch is being disengaged. the less free play would be the more it releases. if for some reason, which i cant figure, the more free play in the allen adjuster the more your releasing the clutch then maybe thats the problem, i need more free play.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 07:36 PM
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Common sense Youtube video covering the basics.
I really hope the guy has eased off the pies a little since the video.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGrandPoohBah
Common sense Youtube video covering the basics.
I really hope the guy has eased off the pies a little since the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl92wwLiNwE
good video.. A bit clearer explanation should be noted with cable release or back off. It's a jam nut that needs to back off first. Then loosen cable nut to threaded casing. Also after light contact of Allen set screw which is in contact with a cross shaft a couple pulls on the clutch lever to cause things to find there proper new home. Tfen tighten that lock but over the setting you make with the Allen screw. Final step is set your free play by the cable casing adjustment. Measured at the clutch lever to lever bracket gap.

This is well described in the HD service manuals with disgrams.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2016 | 04:53 AM
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yeah. honestly i thought i missed something, something easy. just maybe, maybe, the newer Harley's had some strange way of adjusting them. anyway i did adjust it, according to manual, and at least now i can push it back when in first and lever pulled all the way in, something i couldn't do before. rained and street were soaked yesterday so ill try to test it out today. a click i can handle but not a clunk you can hear a block away. wasnt that long ago i had a 90 FXSTC and it made a loud click, but not CLUNK. i dont know, maybe because the tranny, engine and primary all share the same case. like i said = maybe im looking for buggers that arent there.
 

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Originally Posted by hotrod351
yeah. honestly i thought i missed something, something easy. just maybe, maybe, the newer Harley's had some strange way of adjusting them. anyway i did adjust it, according to manual, and at least now i can push it back when in first and lever pulled all the way in, something i couldn't do before. rained and street were soaked yesterday so ill try to test it out today. a click i can handle but not a clunk you can hear a block away. wasnt that long ago i had a 90 FXSTC and it made a loud click, but not CLUNK. i dont know, maybe because the tranny, engine and primary all share the same case. like i said = maybe im looking for buggers that arent there.
You may want to also take a look at your clutch cable. Does it take a lot of effort or is it pretty smooth, without any heavy drag? I have had good luck with HD cable lube for clutch and throttle cables. It's a synthetic product with a good creeping capability to inner cable to casing wear points. The argument form this may come as, "the cable casing is plastic lined and no or little lubrication is needed". All I can say MOCO manuals still recommend cable lubrication. My own use of the HD cable lube, it does work very well.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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its smooth. my first thought was heated up clutch disks. had this problem with a BDL open belt drive, oil getting them. cleaned with acetone and good as new. i have no idea how the previous worked the clutch. 25,000 miles on it. i do know it was to tight when i got it because with it in first, engine running, i couldn't push it back, now i can at least do that. hey it might be alright, the oil looked good in the primary.
 
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