Battery Time?
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: USA
That's interesting.
Many years ago I was a lead-acid "expert" in a continent far away. As part of my training I went to the demolition and destruction test rooms, as well as the new battery build section. The plates would come in and separators mated with them, then the units would be assembled. This included everything from tiny motorcycle batteries to large industrial cells. By weight, nearly 80% of the metal used in those batteries and power cells was recycled - smelted, tested, impurities boiled/filtered out, and recast.
What's the big deal about recycled metal?
Many years ago I was a lead-acid "expert" in a continent far away. As part of my training I went to the demolition and destruction test rooms, as well as the new battery build section. The plates would come in and separators mated with them, then the units would be assembled. This included everything from tiny motorcycle batteries to large industrial cells. By weight, nearly 80% of the metal used in those batteries and power cells was recycled - smelted, tested, impurities boiled/filtered out, and recast.
What's the big deal about recycled metal?
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Cruiser
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From: Indiana
I pulled the battery out today, not sure why, a test light will not light yet the charger show it was almost charged. I had to fight to get it out, the strap that the service manual shows was down under the battery, and almost worn through in 2 places. I put it on a 2a charger, it charges for about 30 minutes then stops, just like the battery tender does. I have a cheap load tester which shows full charges, when I hit the load button it drops instantly to about 9a. going to do a good slow charge, then take it to the HD dealer tomorrow and have them do a load test with their tester. I think it's time for a yusa.
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Cruiser
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From: Indiana
The battery actually had 5 seasons on it not 4, since it was a police model it had the 400cca battery in it, dealership tested it slip says REPLACE BATTERY 125cca and fully charged. I ordered the Yuasa 500cca from PhatPerformance with the 5% off code it was 126.30 free shipping and no tax. I hope this warm weather holds out enough to use it. I was going to wait until spring, but warm days are so tempting.
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If you gave a good maintainer, it will do more than that !
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From: Livingston, Texas
Good battery Charger.
After talking to the Batteries Plus people.
I bought this charger. It don't just maintain.
It charges AGM and lead acid batteries.
Its a 5 amp charger and is waterproof.
Been using it for years.
Got a Odyssey battery in my bike.
https://www.batterystuff.com/battery...v022-0157.html
After talking to the Batteries Plus people.
I bought this charger. It don't just maintain.
It charges AGM and lead acid batteries.
Its a 5 amp charger and is waterproof.
Been using it for years.
Got a Odyssey battery in my bike.
https://www.batterystuff.com/battery...v022-0157.html
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 531
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From: Chile Flats, AZ
IMPURITIES BOILED/FILTERED OUT...
his point was that the products they are getting from a country south of the US have NOT been sufficiently processed to ensure all the impurities are out during the melting/smelting process, leaving a metal product that is not pure and not as effective as they should be... that's the point.
No argument what so ever with the process you described which produces a 'recycled' product that cannot be differentiated from the original metal in quality or characteristics. Thanks for your clarification.
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Cruiser
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From: Indiana
I do have a good charger, and charged it in AGM mode, It does go into a float mode, readout will show full when charges and maintaining, and switch to amp readout when it needs to charge. When it is in the bike I use a Battery Tender (The real one not a knock off)
Road Warrior
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: NY
Good battery Charger.
After talking to the Batteries Plus people.
I bought this charger. It don't just maintain.
It charges AGM and lead acid batteries.
Its a 5 amp charger and is waterproof.
Been using it for years.
Got a Odyssey battery in my bike.
https://www.batterystuff.com/battery...v022-0157.html
After talking to the Batteries Plus people.
I bought this charger. It don't just maintain.
It charges AGM and lead acid batteries.
Its a 5 amp charger and is waterproof.
Been using it for years.
Got a Odyssey battery in my bike.
https://www.batterystuff.com/battery...v022-0157.html
FYI,you were misinformed by the guys @ batteries plus (Battery Stuff?) because they gave you incorrect information & heres why.
Deka & Yuasa motorcycle battery mfg both state the ETX30L & GYZ32hl agm batteries for our HD touring bikes are supposed to be charged @ a max of 3-3.2 amps (respectively) & not the considerably higher (by approx 40-45%) charge rate of 5amps you were told.
Max charge rate of 3.2amps is actually printed on the case of the Yuasa GYZ32HL battery i installed in my HD,i guess the phone guy @ Batteries Plus know's something Yuasa & Deka doesnt.
Now will using a 5amp charger damage either of those batteries after a few uses,very not likely.
But would long term use of a 5amp charge rate maint type charger/tender being used on those batteries be the proper/best choice when mult mfg's rec using a max of 3-3.2amps on the battery they mfg?
NO,it would not be the best choice.
And over time using an approx 40-45% higher amp charge rate then the battery mfg rec's could reduce srvc life a bit due to fact AGM batteries by design having less electrolyte in them making them more sensitive to drying out when charged with too high of a charge rate/too many amps.
But it's not as much of an issue when talking older gen std lead acid battery tech thats fully flooded using considerably more electrolyte/acid making that type battery much less likely to have issues with drying out & warping plates when charged at higher amp rate.
Happy Motoring.
Scott