Oil Temp Gauge Installed
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
ORIGINAL: Unome
You are lucky.Most dealers won't replace a part once it has been installed.
You are lucky.Most dealers won't replace a part once it has been installed.
Next, getting more disgusted by the minute, I talked to an old parts guy who is head of that department. He knows me well and said, "We'll order the kit. You take the kit, determine what's defective, and bring back the rest, including the bad part." Fair enough. Gauge replaced, all working fine now. Everybody's happy. Should've gone to this guy to begin with, but I'm trying to train the rest of the dealership. It's slow going.
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
ORIGINAL: dpa
Here is the adapter for the 07.
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Here is the adapter for the 07.
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
ORIGINAL: stro1965
Excellent, I cannot for the life of me figure out why HD puts that silly ambient air temp thing on there, except to fill up an otherwise empty hole!
Excellent, I cannot for the life of me figure out why HD puts that silly ambient air temp thing on there, except to fill up an otherwise empty hole!
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
ORIGINAL: jeff194
How about this. On my 07 Ultra there are two allen head bolts on the oil filter mounting flang on the front of the engine. Does anyone know what these are for. It looks like it may be a place to tap into the oiling system for a gauge or a cooler? Any one know?
How about this. On my 07 Ultra there are two allen head bolts on the oil filter mounting flang on the front of the engine. Does anyone know what these are for. It looks like it may be a place to tap into the oiling system for a gauge or a cooler? Any one know?
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
exactly how I installed mine
ORIGINAL: jimclaypool
On my 07 Ultra the exact brass bushing from NAPA was #"3220x6x2" which was 3/8" MNPT - 1/8" FNPT. To keep it simple, I just routed the sender cable along the clutch cable to the flairing. I also used the 12v power and ground from the existing air temp gage. The ground was black and the 12v was orange. You could also use the power and ground from the air temp light connector (same colors). I put a spade connector on the ends of the cable from the oil temp gage and just plugged it into the connector.
Jim
07 Ultra
On my 07 Ultra the exact brass bushing from NAPA was #"3220x6x2" which was 3/8" MNPT - 1/8" FNPT. To keep it simple, I just routed the sender cable along the clutch cable to the flairing. I also used the 12v power and ground from the existing air temp gage. The ground was black and the 12v was orange. You could also use the power and ground from the air temp light connector (same colors). I put a spade connector on the ends of the cable from the oil temp gage and just plugged it into the connector.
Jim
07 Ultra
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
I agree the pan is painless, but I was just concerned because I want the guage to read as acurate as possible. I have read some posts that claim to have a diffrence between what their pan mounted sending unit says the temp is vs what the dipstick style guage they are also running says. I am just looking at other options that will expose the sending unit to oil as it returns from the engine.
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I have an 06 SG (early 06 model). I mounted mine in the pan. I used the 3/8 x 1/8" Bushing.The 1/4 bushing must have been for 05 or earlier.
Anyway I find the response time is slow with the oil pan mounted unit. You have to wait for all the oil in the pan to reach temperature. I used to have a dipstick unit on my softtail, and that was much quicker.
The pan unit is readingat the bottom of the pan and through the orifice of the bushing.With the dipstick unit, the tip of the dip stick is suspended around in the middle of the tank. So you get a better response time.
I can see why the MOCO recommends putting in the oil return line. But on 06 and ealier models its a real tight area to work in. plusyou have to lose thereturn line cover.
Anyone know if that oil filter adapter will work on 06 models?
Anyway I find the response time is slow with the oil pan mounted unit. You have to wait for all the oil in the pan to reach temperature. I used to have a dipstick unit on my softtail, and that was much quicker.
The pan unit is readingat the bottom of the pan and through the orifice of the bushing.With the dipstick unit, the tip of the dip stick is suspended around in the middle of the tank. So you get a better response time.
I can see why the MOCO recommends putting in the oil return line. But on 06 and ealier models its a real tight area to work in. plusyou have to lose thereturn line cover.
Anyone know if that oil filter adapter will work on 06 models?
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RE: Oil Temp Gauge Installed
For what it's worth - the North Texas Harley Davidson dealership installs the oil cooler sending units in the oil pan like discussed above - whether or not there is an oil cooler installed.
I did the install myself and one other thing I learned - if installing in place of the air temp guage then before securing the guage into the fairing, pass your wire harness thru the fairing guage hole and connect the nuts to the guage from the front of the fairing - then slide the guage into the hole and secure it with the mounting bracket. Makes the install easier then trying to fit your fat fingers in that little space. Also, as someone mentioned, use the air temp wires for power and ground - pick either set - they are both powered alike according to the service manual wiring diagram.
I did the install myself and one other thing I learned - if installing in place of the air temp guage then before securing the guage into the fairing, pass your wire harness thru the fairing guage hole and connect the nuts to the guage from the front of the fairing - then slide the guage into the hole and secure it with the mounting bracket. Makes the install easier then trying to fit your fat fingers in that little space. Also, as someone mentioned, use the air temp wires for power and ground - pick either set - they are both powered alike according to the service manual wiring diagram.