Fuel pak question
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Fuel pak question
I have a 2004 road King police efi, 88 in I have the forced air intake and Vance and Hines 4 in slip-ons. I am considering a fuel pak or equivalent system. What should I be looking for in them and expect out of them? What is considered a good price for a fixed income?
Thanks Dave
Thanks Dave
Road Warrior
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From: Lake City, Florida
The Fuel Pacs work by richening you motors fuel air ratio to give it a little more fuel that helps smooth the engine out, a little better performance, but mostly to cool your hot running air cooled motors. In the old days you had to change out the jets and adjust your carb's mixture screws.
In 1999 I bought a '99 EFI TC88 Roadking that I put a Vance and Hines Fuel Pac on when the bike was new and I rode the bike for eight years and put almost 90K miles on her with the Fuel Pac trouble free. That Fuel Pac had three adjustable RPM ranges with (if I remember right) that had a little red, yellow and green LED's and set screws that I'd adjust with a tweaker screwdriver to get a richer fuel mixture for each RPM range. The LED's would go from red to yellow to green. I had mounted the FP under the right side cover.
In Dec of 2009 I bought a 2010 Electra Glide Limited with the 103 motor, since the Vance and Hines Fuel Pac worked trouble free on my '99 I put their newer version on my 103. It's has like thirty different neumeric settings that V/H gives you that you put into it. Then forget about it. It has worked without any issues since Jan on 2010 and I'm still riding that bike two or three times a week.
In 1999 I bought a '99 EFI TC88 Roadking that I put a Vance and Hines Fuel Pac on when the bike was new and I rode the bike for eight years and put almost 90K miles on her with the Fuel Pac trouble free. That Fuel Pac had three adjustable RPM ranges with (if I remember right) that had a little red, yellow and green LED's and set screws that I'd adjust with a tweaker screwdriver to get a richer fuel mixture for each RPM range. The LED's would go from red to yellow to green. I had mounted the FP under the right side cover.
In Dec of 2009 I bought a 2010 Electra Glide Limited with the 103 motor, since the Vance and Hines Fuel Pac worked trouble free on my '99 I put their newer version on my 103. It's has like thirty different neumeric settings that V/H gives you that you put into it. Then forget about it. It has worked without any issues since Jan on 2010 and I'm still riding that bike two or three times a week.
Last edited by jamesroadking; Feb 3, 2018 at 05:08 AM.
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I went to a local shop certified and talked to him, he has a dyno, he sees the numbers. I have an 06 flh and love my PCIII, with the custom map it really runs great.
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...r_locator.aspx
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...r_locator.aspx
Tourer
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Welcome to the HDF!
There is a ton of information on fuel paks and other fuel management devices on HDF. My personal experience from other riders and friends that have installed the fuel pak have not all been positive. I guess they got some lemons. The PCIII may be a better option. I have ran the TTS Master Tune for years but recently switched to the V&H FP3. Both are Flash Tuners which change your ECM directly and don't require you to keep an additional device on your motorcycle. Perhaps more expensive to start with but in the long run, IMHO, I think Flash type tuners are a better choice.
There is a ton of information on fuel paks and other fuel management devices on HDF. My personal experience from other riders and friends that have installed the fuel pak have not all been positive. I guess they got some lemons. The PCIII may be a better option. I have ran the TTS Master Tune for years but recently switched to the V&H FP3. Both are Flash Tuners which change your ECM directly and don't require you to keep an additional device on your motorcycle. Perhaps more expensive to start with but in the long run, IMHO, I think Flash type tuners are a better choice.
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From: Texas
Have a 2003 flhpi with Python slip ons, K&N air filter and S&S 510 gear driven cams; no shoes to check. Bike ran great but something not quite right. Got in touch with Fuel Motto and they mapped a PC 5 for me and made all the difference. Bike is very strong and runs a lot cooler. Majority of my riding is 60-80 mph. Give them a call and see what they can do for you.
Tourer
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From: Seattle
Dave,
Before you buy anything you should consider calling FuelMotoUSA and talking with Travis or Jamie 920-423-3309. They may be able to get you setup with the PowerVision PV-1 with a custom map that will do what you're looking for plus a whole lot more like ability to log, full set of digital gauges in the PV display and ability to quick tune. I see the V&H FuelPaks from $299 to $399. Around Memorial Day FuelMoto usually has a sale that will net a PV-1 for under $399 shipped.
Before you buy anything you should consider calling FuelMotoUSA and talking with Travis or Jamie 920-423-3309. They may be able to get you setup with the PowerVision PV-1 with a custom map that will do what you're looking for plus a whole lot more like ability to log, full set of digital gauges in the PV display and ability to quick tune. I see the V&H FuelPaks from $299 to $399. Around Memorial Day FuelMoto usually has a sale that will net a PV-1 for under $399 shipped.
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I went to a local shop certified and talked to him, he has a dyno, he sees the numbers. I have an 06 flh and love my PCIII, with the custom map it really runs great.
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...r_locator.aspx
http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...r_locator.aspx
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I almost bought the FP3 from Fuelmoto AT 399.00, found it at Hog pro for 299.00.
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I have a similar setup as you. Ran a FuelPak for years. Had no real problems with it. V&H is great about supplying you with the correct map for your bike. You can logon to their website and choose your setup in the pull down menus for a map suggestion. If there are no choices that match yours, just choose "other" and it gives you the option to e-mail v&h for a custom map. They are very good about supplying you with one. Found a deal on a Power Commander 3, so bought it and changed them out. I am much happier with the power commander. More tweakable than the fuelpak. Both are good products. The FuelPak values are entered manually with buttons on the unit, while the Power Commander requires a laptop/pc connection to download the map to the unit. Both can be found on flea bay for a reasonable price.
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From: The Nature Coast, FL
I have a similar setup as you. Ran a FuelPak for years. Had no real problems with it. V&H is great about supplying you with the correct map for your bike. You can logon to their website and choose your setup in the pull down menus for a map suggestion. If there are no choices that match yours, just choose "other" and it gives you the option to e-mail v&h for a custom map. They are very good about supplying you with one. Found a deal on a Power Commander 3, so bought it and changed them out. I am much happier with the power commander. More tweakable than the fuelpak. Both are good products. The FuelPak values are entered manually with buttons on the unit, while the Power Commander requires a laptop/pc connection to download the map to the unit. Both can be found on flea bay for a reasonable price.