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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 06:50 AM
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I know plastics or polymer these days are incredibly robust. Putting the opinion of the mechanic on the video aside, would fitting metal anti-rotation collars make more engine noise.
No they wouldnt. The roller cammed domestic car engines often ran figure fork shaped or figure eight shaped sintered metal collars with a spring loaded spider applying pressure to keep them down in place around the lifter body.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 06:56 AM
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Well, hanging that chrome horn cover went well. I think I'll tear into the engine with some gofast parts.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 07:02 AM
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Mine runs fine and is a total blast to ride,They did a really good job with the 117.At least it doesen't sound like its coming apart like my 110s did.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 07:03 AM
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The apparent carbon scaling on the piston and small wear area, is that within the realm of normal on any engine ? "I'm asking cause I don't know", thanx.
 
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Originally Posted by HKMark23
The apparent carbon scaling on the piston and small wear area, is that within the realm of normal on any engine ? "I'm asking cause I don't know", thanx.
The tiny oval silver spot is deliberate on many new pistons (the measurement area for skirt size and piston fit) and the black area is an anti-wear / friction reduction coating that Ive had applied to some race engine builds but I cant say it does anything. You can see the black is thinning in a large oval pattern around the measurement mark which is the widest part of the piston skirt and is also expected over time. I see no scuffing in the limited angles the video shows so piston to wall clearance was correct and the carbon on the piston could be from a tune that was fat on the mixture. Its not oil consumption carbon buildup.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hellonewman
"Plastic" lifter anti-rotation collars are common place inside mass produced car and truck engines. Plastic timing chain hydraulic tensioners are used on pretty much every engine Ford produces going back at least 15 years now and they dont break or fall apart. Plastic intake manifolds, valve covers and oil pans too.
many of us having dealt with the cam tensioner shoes on the Twin Cams, anytime I hear 'plastic' in a HD engine I cringe a bit.

I don't own an M8 and am trying to learn more about the engine. Each generation seems to have its Achilles heel....have been wondering what it is for the M8.

 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty901
Back yard indy trying to claim he knows better. No wonder his is apart . Wrong person working on it. But that is the cause of most HD issues.

Michael is a professional motorcycle drag racer and has one of the best indy shops in the country.
The M8 is a piece of sh_t and he's not the only one saying it.
Lots of motor builders are shaking their heads at the poor design and even poorer build quality of the junk that is currently coming out of Milwaukee.
 
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In it's stock form it's gonna perform as the TC did and the 88. The racing form as in other
forms of racing won't mirror the stock form. In sprint cars the Chevy,Ford ,Toyota are nothing more than a branded name . What wins on the track on Sunday sells on the show room on Monday, left a long time ago.If you ride a Harley and plan on doing so for any time period. You might as well get used to the M8,It's not going anywhere.
 
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Originally Posted by F150HD
many of us having dealt with the cam tensioner shoes on the Twin Cams, anytime I hear 'plastic' in a HD engine I cringe a bit.

I don't own an M8 and am trying to learn more about the engine. Each generation seems to have its Achilles heel....have been wondering what it is for the M8.

Thats different and I wont argue that the shoe is wearing prematurely. Using plastic is fine if its not used beyond its capabilities where too much pressure and constant friction is applied. The timing chain tensioner arms and guides in any car engine do wear (but not in short order like the above pic).
 
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