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Old Aug 18, 2018 | 05:31 PM
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I just put a set of 13” PA on my new to me 17 RGS- I’ve only puta few hundred on them but so far so good. I had Howard’s #2-2 black lines on my previous ride- 13 RK. They were awesome but this time around I wanted to try something different..
 
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Old Aug 18, 2018 | 09:59 PM
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Thanks for all the responses guys, I am not from the US and I was originally set on PA shocks then found the Ohlins locally. If I have to import the shocks and deal with the waiting and custom clearance headache I will definitely go with PA for the price, the simplicity and all the rave reviews about it, I wasn't even considering Ohlins HD357 before I found this one brand new available locally and priced really well. I can't bring myself to bother Howard with my questions because I have no intention of buying the HD357 if I have to import it, with the 50% import tax the Ohlins will cost mega bucks by the time it reached my door. To put it simply, my only question is should I go with custom tuned PA or off the shelf HD357 for essentially almost the same price
 

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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 05:23 AM
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IIRC the PA shocks are not remote reservoir, as the Ohlins are. I suspect the two will be worlds apart, if you were able to make a direct comparison, side-by-side. You have access to the Ohlins and will have to import the PA. You don't mention any import taxes and/or duty you may have to pay on the PA. Your choice is plain and simple IMHO!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nobodyknowsme
I live nearby and ride these roads regularly. You may feel more comfortable with something else, and I don't blame you, but I have ridden bikes here for many years. Aftermarket is nice, but certainly not necessary. Shoot, have ridden stock, even stock air, and while there was room for improvement, I rode just fine. My old bike still has stock front suspension but I eliminated the air. It does however have Progressive in the rear.

Back to OP, I would opt for the Pro Action as yes, they are that nice!!!
I have cartridges in my 2010 and that bike needed help up front bad. The 2016 RK that I had was much more rigid up front than the pre-rushmores. The subtle changes to the fork valving in the 17 I have is greatly improved. I am on the fence on whether to throw any money at it or not. I ride down south a lot (just got back from Maggie) and road out west last summer on the 17 with the pro action rears and was very comfortable and in control. Wife loves the shocks.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
IIRC the PA shocks are not remote reservoir, as the Ohlins are. I suspect the two will be worlds apart, if you were able to make a direct comparison, side-by-side. You have access to the Ohlins and will have to import the PA. You don't mention any import taxes and/or duty you may have to pay on the PA. Your choice is plain and simple IMHO!
I don't think your typical touring rig is going to know the difference in remote reservoir or not. I have not been able to get the PA's to fade. Last year we rode 4 750 mile days. 1500 out and back from CO fully loaded and this year we ran to 650 legs loaded 2 up and I had no shock fade. 12 hours in the twisties maybe but general sporty riding on a mix of roads you would be surprised how well the PA's stand up. Yes I have run Ohilns.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 06:09 PM
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Th springs are marked, what is the number? 21/25 no should be the ones on there. can get in touch with Joey Subrizi at Ohlins.he can answer your questions
 
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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
IIRC the PA shocks are not remote reservoir, as the Ohlins are. I suspect the two will be worlds apart, if you were able to make a direct comparison, side-by-side. You have access to the Ohlins and will have to import the PA. You don't mention any import taxes and/or duty you may have to pay on the PA. Your choice is plain and simple IMHO!
I know the duty I will have to pay to import the PA, according to my calculations after all shipping and duties the PA will land on my door for only $200 cheaper than if I buy the Ohlins HD357 from the local guy hence the question on my head, for only $200 more should I go for HD357 with remote res and ability to fully adjust both compression and rebound. I am not so sure about the PA rebound and compression adjustability because PA website mentioned something about auto adjustment on compression and 3 stage rebound system, not sure if that translates to full adjustability or pre set from factory? I used to mountain trail bike about 9 years ago and understand the awesome effect of rebound fine adjustment.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 08:46 PM
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I kinda depends on what you intend to do to the front end. Radical vs Radical=Ohlins, you get gist the of it. I would not put on what some would say is the top of the totem pole shocks, without doing something equal to the front.

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Old Aug 19, 2018 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by uwiik
I know the duty I will have to pay to import the PA, according to my calculations after all shipping and duties the PA will land on my door for only $200 cheaper than if I buy the Ohlins HD357 from the local guy hence the question on my head, for only $200 more should I go for HD357 with remote res and ability to fully adjust both compression and rebound. I am not so sure about the PA rebound and compression adjustability because PA website mentioned something about auto adjustment on compression and 3 stage rebound system, not sure if that translates to full adjustability or pre set from factory? I used to mountain trail bike about 9 years ago and understand the awesome effect of rebound fine adjustment.
Pro Actions have full adjustability just like the Ohlins you’re looking at (compression and rebound). They’re also much easier to adjust then the Ohlins in both departments.
The Ohlins 357’s are a separated shock versus an emulsion shocks. Separated shocks have their advantages over emulsion shocks. Question is this...Will you notice the performance difference between the two? Depending on your riding style, the separated shocks will perform better over emulsions.

if you go back and forth from one up to two up a lot...get the pro actions as they deal better with the change and are MUCH easier to adjust if needed.

If you stay stay at one weight most of the time (one up or two up..doesn’t matter) get the Ohlins as it’s a separated shock.


 

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:47 AM
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Didn't know that PA is also 3 stages adjustable (preload-compression-rebound) will call up the guy again tomorrow and if he is willing to drop the price on the Ohlins to be $200 cheaper to anticipate if I have to buy another spring to suit my weight then I will get the Ohlins. Otherwise I'll just order PA custom tuned for me so I can just pay the price, the tax, install it and forget about it.

Thanks for the advices folks!!
 
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