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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 08:33 PM
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I did my front gas cartridges and Ohlins shock for around $1000 complete...Only thing I regret is not doing it sooner.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 09:03 PM
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Dynamic, I ride a Harley not a couch. Ride what you will and if you got the coin to dump 8 or more bills on a set of shocks, go for it. But not everyone here wants to fall asleep on a ride. Not me anyway. Im no kid and all day rides don't bother me at all with those substandard, MoCo conspiracy shocks.

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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 09:13 PM
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Stroker, the only way someone can truly get an honest appraisal of different shocks is to test ride identical bikes. I have an 2003 road king classic., I would be lucky to find a dealer with one of those now so im testing a 2010 or better with the different frame, bars etc. Not a comparison at all but hey it is what it is. Im 225 lbs, 6 foot tall and 61 years old. I don't find the air shocks bad and my skoot suits me just fine. Most definitely not $800 fine.

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Cajun, i thought my bike was nice riding to before i rode a 17 then getting back on my bike it felt loose and sloppy so much of a difference i was ready to trade in but figured id try to update my suspension before i do since i like my bike so much, had i not rode that 17 id probably still think mine was a good riding bike, im not one to throw money on something just cause Mr, Jones said i must have it. i work to hard for my $$$ im not out to impress any one or make any one do as i do i was just sharing what i done and how it improved on my bike, try to fine as new as you can take it for a spin like to know if you feel like i felt after the test ride? in just a few blocks i could tell a huge improvement that 17 was over mine

also i can tell you the 08 rides better then the 02 RK i had before it, this one is an EG but i had the fairing on my RK so the bikes are pretty close to each other

you have a couple years on me young man im 45 240lb

02 RK 19k miles (when i sold it)



08 EG 21k miles changed up a little (better riding then the RK)

 

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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 11:47 PM
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't put the newer suspension on older bikes because the older swing arms are too weak? Or does than not apply with the premium shocks?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 07:13 AM
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't put the newer suspension on older bikes because the older swing arms are too weak? Or does than not apply with the premium shocks?
only premium shocks because one shock has different functionality than the other. On coil over shocks they both have the same functionality so it doesn’t matter.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 04:32 PM
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only premium shocks because one shock has different functionality than the other. On coil over shocks they both have the same functionality so it doesn’t matter.
OOOOOOH OK. I asked a while back about the hand adjustable shocks and putting them on my 07UC and a bunch of people told me not to do it because my swing arm is too weak. I didn't know that it was OK to do with the premiums. I'm going to try and track a set down now.

EDIT: Wait, now I'm confusing myself because Harley calls everything "premium." The hand adjustables are called "Premium" by Harley but I was told that's a no go. Are there "premium" and "standard" hand adjustables?
 

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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 10:29 PM
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only premium shocks because one shock has different functionality than the other. On coil over shocks they both have the same functionality so it doesn’t matter.
has there been posts about issues with running them? i cant find any? i have them on a 08 have not had any problems i only ride solo tho bike feels very stable and planted way better then the air shocks...
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 10:38 PM
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has there been posts about issues with running them? i cant find any? i have them on a 08 have not had any problems i only ride solo tho bike feels very stable and planted way better then the air shocks...
A few comments about it in a thread I started back in December.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-question.html

Not the only time I've seen his said either. I'm wondering if there are 2 kinds of hand adjustables. I have a buddy who runs some on his 2000 EG and hasn't had any problems (yet). I do ride 2 up though and don' wan to kill my wife, me and my bike because I made a bad decision on buying shocks. IIRC there is a video in that thread that shows how the adjustable side doesn't actually have any resistance in the shock and is basically just a spring.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by s13steve
A few comments about it in a thread I started back in December.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-question.html

Not the only time I've seen his said either. I'm wondering if there are 2 kinds of hand adjustables. I have a buddy who runs some on his 2000 EG and hasn't had any problems (yet). I do ride 2 up though and don' wan to kill my wife, me and my bike because I made a bad decision on buying shocks. IIRC there is a video in that thread that shows how the adjustable side doesn't actually have any resistance in the shock and is basically just a spring.
i cant find any info that some one has had a problem with using them "only" folks saying you should not use them. if there is a post that any one had a problem with them installed id love a link to it

i think the swingarms are plenty strong since the air shocks do not have any type of one way valve to hold air pressure evenly in each shock that means in turns one shock is seeing more air the then other "if" the swingarm is flexing, now if each shock had its own air inlet it be different but they dont, i learned this by installing air ride on a truck i had to keep the air in the suspension even i had to have air valves on each bag with out them when in turns the bags that was under the most pressure would loose air it was being pushed to the unloaded side, i would think harley would of designed the swingarms knowing since only one air inlet that would be a problem if it was weak and flexing

 
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Old Feb 3, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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I think the problems are isolated, I guess if you push the bike to its limits in the twisties you might notice...they say the swing arm is stiffer on the newer bikes....Meh!!!!. Without trying both bikes equipped differently in the same situation, it’s hard to know the diff...
i also don’t know how much better my HD159 are compared to Premium adjustable 13” on my 07. All I know is when properly adjusted these Ohlins are so much better than stock or stock with fresh fluids using 7 or 10 or mixed weight fluids in them. Going into a curve solo or 2up un the mountains, I am so much more confident in the bike.
 
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