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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 06:54 AM
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They recommend changing break fluid every two years on bikes with dot 4 fluid. Now I can do this myself and I do know how. My question is the dealer says they have a computer base fluid changer that's gets every last drop out. It don't cost much to do. I put about 20000 miles a year on bake has 39000 now he said I should be changing soon. I always do my own work from small jobs to full rebuilds This new computer **** sometimes has me going in circles. So should I just let the dealer do it for the $65.00 or do it my self. Please only answer if you know what your talking about.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 07:45 AM
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I do my own work, and I'm perfectly capable of bleeding brakes; I've done it countless times on motorcycles, cars, etc. over the years. You'll no doubt get varying opinions on this, but according to the service manual, Digital Technician (DT) is required when bleeding the ABS brake system. It ensures that all air and other contaminants are purged from the ABS module that regular bleeding won't do. I was sceptical and asked a dealer about it. They allowed me to watch them bleed a system with DT. In short, after watching the procedure, I'll take mine to the dealer and let them do it the correct way. Brakes are too important to try and save $100 bucks or so.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 08:13 AM
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I do my own work, and I'm perfectly capable of bleeding brakes; I've done it countless times on motorcycles, cars, etc. over the years. You'll no doubt get varying opinions on this, but according to the service manual, Digital Technician (DT) is required when bleeding the ABS brake system. It ensures that all air and other contaminants are purged from the ABS module that regular bleeding won't do. I was sceptical and asked a dealer about it. They allowed me to watch them bleed a system with DT. In short, after watching the procedure, I'll take mine to the dealer and let them do it the correct way. Brakes are too important to try and save $100 bucks or so.
That is what I was thinking. I don't think this dealer would steer me wrong, Sometimes they send me some work to do from costumes with the older bikes.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 11:04 AM
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That is what I was thinking. I don't think this dealer would steer me wrong, Sometimes they send me some work to do from costumes with the older bikes.
You NEED to cycle the ABS module when bleeding the brakes, IF you get air in the system. It's the only way to ensure the complete system has been purged.

For brake fluid flushing, the digital technician cycles the ABS module in between bleeding the brakes. This ensures that any fluid held in the ABS chambers, gets flushed too. Whether that is absolutely necessary can be debated, but the DT will give a complete flush, that just a normal flush/bleed will not provide.

Many have flushed the brake system, gone for a ride to activate the ABS, then re-bled the brake system.. pretty much same thing as using a DT... it's not rocket science... but it is more work..

If you are a dedicated do-it-yourself guy... buy a Daytona Twin Tec Scan II or Twin Tec Scan 4 (depending on canbus or pre-canbus bikes). It will allow you to bleed and flush your ABS brakes just like the dealer, as well as do a bunch of other stuff like: ·

KEYFOBS and SECURITY: Program and read key fobs, program PIN and disable security all together.

ACTIVATE MODULES, LIGHTS, and INDICATORS: Test different actuators, lights and indicators and Fuel Pump Drain.

SPEEDOMETER: Sweep test, tachometer sweep test, activate all dash indicators

BODY CONTROL SETTINGS: Read settings in the BCM for ignition switch, radio installed, bank angle sensor for trike installs, fog light function, and ABS installation.

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So you have choices if you'd rather do your own work on your bike.

It's been a long time since I've heard someone say, "I don't think this dealer would steer me wrong." Those dealers are few and far between... and getting rarer... If your dealer is truly one of them, then it'll be easier to let the dealer do it... I don't have one of "them" in my area, so I choose to do it myself...
 
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You NEED to cycle the ABS module when bleeding the brakes, IF you get air in the system. It's the only way to ensure the complete system has been purged.

For brake fluid flushing, the digital technician cycles the ABS module in between bleeding the brakes. This ensures that any fluid held in the ABS chambers, gets flushed too. Whether that is absolutely necessary can be debated, but the DT will give a complete flush, that just a normal flush/bleed will not provide.

Many have flushed the brake system, gone for a ride to activate the ABS, then re-bled the brake system.. pretty much same thing as using a DT... it's not rocket science... but it is more work..

If you are a dedicated do-it-yourself guy... buy a Daytona Twin Tec Scan II or Twin Tec Scan 4 (depending on canbus or pre-canbus bikes). It will allow you to bleed and flush your ABS brakes just like the dealer, as well as do a bunch of other stuff like: ·

KEYFOBS and SECURITY: Program and read key fobs, program PIN and disable security all together.

ACTIVATE MODULES, LIGHTS, and INDICATORS: Test different actuators, lights and indicators and Fuel Pump Drain.

SPEEDOMETER: Sweep test, tachometer sweep test, activate all dash indicators

BODY CONTROL SETTINGS: Read settings in the BCM for ignition switch, radio installed, bank angle sensor for trike installs, fog light function, and ABS installation.

UPDATES FOR LIFE

So you have choices if you'd rather do your own work on your bike.

It's been a long time since I've heard someone say, "I don't think this dealer would steer me wrong." Those dealers are few and far between... and getting rarer... If your dealer is truly one of them, then it'll be easier to let the dealer do it... I don't have one of "them" in my area, so I choose to do it myself...
Do you have that scanner?
 
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Do you have that scanner?
Not yet, it is on my "buy" list....
 
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<snip> So should I just let the dealer do it for the $65.00 or do it my self. Please only answer if you know what your talking about.
I don't care what service is in question, a $65 service at a dealer is as good as free. At that price it is worth it so I don't have to do it. My time is worth more.
 
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Originally Posted by hattitude
You NEED to cycle the ABS module when bleeding the brakes, IF you get air in the system. It's the only way to ensure the complete system has been purged.

For brake fluid flushing, the digital technician cycles the ABS module in between bleeding the brakes. This ensures that any fluid held in the ABS chambers, gets flushed too. Whether that is absolutely necessary can be debated, but the DT will give a complete flush, that just a normal flush/bleed will not provide.

Many have flushed the brake system, gone for a ride to activate the ABS, then re-bled the brake system.. pretty much same thing as using a DT... it's not rocket science... but it is more work..

If you are a dedicated do-it-yourself guy... buy a Daytona Twin Tec Scan II or Twin Tec Scan 4 (depending on canbus or pre-canbus bikes). It will allow you to bleed and flush your ABS brakes just like the dealer, as well as do a bunch of other stuff like: ·

KEYFOBS and SECURITY: Program and read key fobs, program PIN and disable security all together.

ACTIVATE MODULES, LIGHTS, and INDICATORS: Test different actuators, lights and indicators and Fuel Pump Drain.

SPEEDOMETER: Sweep test, tachometer sweep test, activate all dash indicators

BODY CONTROL SETTINGS: Read settings in the BCM for ignition switch, radio installed, bank angle sensor for trike installs, fog light function, and ABS installation.

UPDATES FOR LIFE

So you have choices if you'd rather do your own work on your bike.

It's been a long time since I've heard someone say, "I don't think this dealer would steer me wrong." Those dealers are few and far between... and getting rarer... If your dealer is truly one of them, then it'll be easier to let the dealer do it... I don't have one of "them" in my area, so I choose to do it myself...
The dealer that I use is very good, He charged me 42.00 for the service only took about 1/2 hr. Like I said they send me work at times with the older bikes and if they have the time to wait because being retired means more riding and golf, so I get to work on bikes when I get around to it.They know that going into it,
 
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