2016 FLHTK - Disabled Security
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"Security systems keep honest people honest, and if you are lucky send a thief to an easier target."
And a locked fork and ignition won't do the same thing? The pros with the lifts can lift any bike and retract it right into a van and be gone, security fob OR locked fork and ignition. How much does the OP want to spend for very little added protection combined with a large potential for it to be a PITA?
And a locked fork and ignition won't do the same thing? The pros with the lifts can lift any bike and retract it right into a van and be gone, security fob OR locked fork and ignition. How much does the OP want to spend for very little added protection combined with a large potential for it to be a PITA?
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From: anacoco, la
i've had 5 harleys since 07 that have had security and i have never had anything that even remotely resembled a pita with them. course, i learned how to use it right away, and practice every now and again (too lazy to go in the house to get the key when moving the bike in the garage). i don't change fob batteries yearly, i wait until they die, then use the override code until i pick up a new battery. usually get over 3 years out of a battery btw....
personally, i like being able to just walk away from the bike without having to worry about locking the forks and ignition. i will do that if i'm in unfamiliar territory, but i don't have to do it every time i stop.
but like cpt obvious says, 'you do you'...
personally, i like being able to just walk away from the bike without having to worry about locking the forks and ignition. i will do that if i'm in unfamiliar territory, but i don't have to do it every time i stop.
but like cpt obvious says, 'you do you'...
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My 2016 FLHTK came from the dealership with the security disabled, so it came with only the barrel key and no fob. I want to get a fob and a replacement key which I can get the from my local HD Dealer. Will there be any issues re-enabling security? Is this a process that is easily done?
To match a new FOB, to a working security system (TSSM) is very easily done, by the owner, as long as you can disarm the security (w/FOB or security code). You can add up to two FOBs. I have done this procedure to one of my older bikes. It had one FOB that was starting to act up. I purchased and added two new FOBs, which rendered the original one unusable for my TSSM.
If you need to assign a new TSSM to an EFI ECM, it is a very complicated, 30+ minute process for the owner to do, but it's possible. It was made long and tedious so someone couldn't just buy a new TSSM and swap out the old one quickly, to steal a bike. Having read how to marry a new TSSM to an ECM, I'd definitely let a dealer do it with their computer.
In the pre-Canbus bikes, if the ECM is married to the ECM, it's either armed or unarmed, depending on if the owner has activated it or not. With the new TSSMs with auto-arming, if you lose a FOB or it fails, you better know you're security code..... even if it's in transport mode, the ignition circuit will not work without the FOB in close proximity (or the secret code).
For the new security systems ('14+) with the passive (automatic) security system, the security TSSM cannot be switched to an active system or shut off by the owner... I don't know if it can be "shut off' by the dealer or not.
Hope that info helps....
My 16 RGU was previously an Eagle Rider rental bike. They ordered it from the dealer without the security system enabled. When I bought it used I had to take it to my local dealer and they had to connect it to there computer to enable it and assign the fob. They charged me $45 labor.
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No. My H1 had a locked fork and ignition. I think a theft was prevented for several weeks because of the little chain through the rear wheel. But the day I didn't take time to use the chain.....
Nothing will prevent theft by a few guys with a van/truck. But fortunately those thieves aren't as common as a guy looking to make a easy score.
Nothing will prevent theft by a few guys with a van/truck. But fortunately those thieves aren't as common as a guy looking to make a easy score.
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The reason for all this is that I left my only barrel key in the ignition and it wiggled it's way out on Saturday and it is now gone. Fortunately, I can still ride it. However, I can't get into my saddlebags as they were locked before riding.
I went to the dealer yesterday. Per the VIN, the bike came with security. However, it is not functioning in any capacity. Unfortunately, the dealer couldn't connect to the bike because they couldn't remove the saddlebag because it was locked.
I ordered two new barrel keys. When they come in the dealer will then connect to the bike and see why the security is not enabled. There is a chance it was never enabled at the originating dealer.
As for the discussion of the necessity of wanting security. I want it. Is it fool proof, no. Can it help, sure.
I went to the dealer yesterday. Per the VIN, the bike came with security. However, it is not functioning in any capacity. Unfortunately, the dealer couldn't connect to the bike because they couldn't remove the saddlebag because it was locked.
I ordered two new barrel keys. When they come in the dealer will then connect to the bike and see why the security is not enabled. There is a chance it was never enabled at the originating dealer.
As for the discussion of the necessity of wanting security. I want it. Is it fool proof, no. Can it help, sure.
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From: Bear Flag, lower end
The reason for all this is that I left my only barrel key in the ignition and it wiggled it's way out on Saturday and it is now gone. Fortunately, I can still ride it. However, I can't get into my saddlebags as they were locked before riding.
I went to the dealer yesterday. Per the VIN, the bike came with security. However, it is not functioning in any capacity. Unfortunately, the dealer couldn't connect to the bike because they couldn't remove the saddlebag because it was locked.
I ordered two new barrel keys. When they come in the dealer will then connect to the bike and see why the security is not enabled. There is a chance it was never enabled at the originating dealer.
As for the discussion of the necessity of wanting security. I want it. Is it fool proof, no. Can it help, sure.
I went to the dealer yesterday. Per the VIN, the bike came with security. However, it is not functioning in any capacity. Unfortunately, the dealer couldn't connect to the bike because they couldn't remove the saddlebag because it was locked.
I ordered two new barrel keys. When they come in the dealer will then connect to the bike and see why the security is not enabled. There is a chance it was never enabled at the originating dealer.
As for the discussion of the necessity of wanting security. I want it. Is it fool proof, no. Can it help, sure.
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From: Oklahoma
No. My H1 had a locked fork and ignition. I think a theft was prevented for several weeks because of the little chain through the rear wheel. But the day I didn't take time to use the chain.....
Nothing will prevent theft by a few guys with a van/truck. But fortunately those thieves aren't as common as a guy looking to make a easy score.
Nothing will prevent theft by a few guys with a van/truck. But fortunately those thieves aren't as common as a guy looking to make a easy score.
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I have a Harley and a Vette, and haven't had a single security issue with either one.
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