Tuning question
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Emmett, Idaho
You have a heavy road motorcycle, correct? All this dynamometer advice is pure, excessive nonsense--and liable to only lighten your wallet without any reasonable returned value. The only sensible advice for you here is to install an on-board tuner for which you can select exactly--or very closely--the modifications you make. Close is absolutely good enough. These are calculated "maps" from the vendor; a vendor such as DynoJet, or several others.
For the owner of a road cycle, the notion that you need dynamometer test is just foolish. Look at the 2006 Ultra cycle in my signature: it has all kinds of expensive modifications (installed by a former owner) with an older Dynojet tuner version with a close-enough map from that vendor--and should I be stupid enough to think it is a good idea, I can pull my front wheel off the ground in second gear. This cycle has never seen a dynamometer.
Lastly, I have never had one moment of mechanical trouble with this cycle--and even today I can pull away from many HD OEM high-cube models. Quit listening to the ****-compulsives here and use some common sense.
For the owner of a road cycle, the notion that you need dynamometer test is just foolish. Look at the 2006 Ultra cycle in my signature: it has all kinds of expensive modifications (installed by a former owner) with an older Dynojet tuner version with a close-enough map from that vendor--and should I be stupid enough to think it is a good idea, I can pull my front wheel off the ground in second gear. This cycle has never seen a dynamometer.
Lastly, I have never had one moment of mechanical trouble with this cycle--and even today I can pull away from many HD OEM high-cube models. Quit listening to the ****-compulsives here and use some common sense.
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2018
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From: W. MI.
Never had a problem with just adding slip ons. Mess with the air side and that's a different story. I have seen it where the mufflers aren't clamped tight enough and suck air, that will cause popping. I've even had to use hi-temp on the head pipe where the mufflers clamp on to avoid any leak.
Last edited by Bass Player; Apr 10, 2019 at 10:27 AM.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2018
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From: AZ
My '09 Ultra Classic came with an orange SE Super Tuner Pro. 103ci, 510g cams, SE slip ons, kuryakyn bahn AC w K&N filter. Runs great, my only complaint is the gas mileage is like 28/29 mpg. Doesnt run hot at all even in AZ so its obviously rich. I'd like to do an auto tune or adjust it somewhat but I'm a big believer in, if it ain't broke dont F with it.
Last edited by Pantera99; Apr 10, 2019 at 10:28 AM. Reason: Typo
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 304
From: Providence Forge, VA
How does the Fuel Moto Power Vision tuner compare to the ThunderMax active monitoring? What are the pros and cons of each - other than price? I know the ThunderMax is about twice the cost at $1000.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Cruiser
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 109
Likes: 17
From: Minnesota
So I added some slip ons on my 08 SG (stock air cleaner) and Im getting a lot of deceleration popping.. Im guessing tuning would help sort it out maybe??.. but am I better off getting an air cleaner and then tune it or just get it tuned? I would like to get a air cleaner just hoping to wait till next year as Ive already spent a crap load on this bike already and didnt really want to add anything else. But if Id be better off getting a air cleaner then Id guess Id go that route.
Last edited by whiskeyfire; Apr 10, 2019 at 11:56 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 145
Likes: 20
From: OHIO
I have the Thunder-Max on mine and although I have only used it to load base maps and monitor it is also has ability to read diag and provide current and historic codes which was useful even last night when I popped a p0118 code. I just needed to reseat the ET sensor plug but was able to watch the code go from current to OK. Other tuners may do this also, Im not sure.
Last edited by Forrest77; Apr 11, 2019 at 11:56 AM.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 14,144
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From: San Diego, CA
You have a heavy road motorcycle, correct? All this dynamometer advice is pure, excessive nonsense--and liable to only lighten your wallet without any reasonable returned value. The only sensible advice for you here is to install an on-board tuner for which you can select exactly--or very closely--the modifications you make. Close is absolutely good enough. These are calculated "maps" from the vendor; a vendor such as DynoJet, or several others.
For the owner of a road cycle, the notion that you need dynamometer test is just foolish. Look at the 2006 Ultra cycle in my signature: it has all kinds of expensive modifications (installed by a former owner) with an older Dynojet tuner version with a close-enough map from that vendor--and should I be stupid enough to think it is a good idea, I can pull my front wheel off the ground in second gear. This cycle has never seen a dynamometer.
Lastly, I have never had one moment of mechanical trouble with this cycle--and even today I can pull away from many HD OEM high-cube models. Quit listening to the ****-compulsives here and use some common sense.
For the owner of a road cycle, the notion that you need dynamometer test is just foolish. Look at the 2006 Ultra cycle in my signature: it has all kinds of expensive modifications (installed by a former owner) with an older Dynojet tuner version with a close-enough map from that vendor--and should I be stupid enough to think it is a good idea, I can pull my front wheel off the ground in second gear. This cycle has never seen a dynamometer.
Lastly, I have never had one moment of mechanical trouble with this cycle--and even today I can pull away from many HD OEM high-cube models. Quit listening to the ****-compulsives here and use some common sense.
Everybody looks for different things from their motorcycle experience, from looks, to ride, and finally performance.....
You're certainly entitled to voice your opinion, and I agree with you on several points.
What's "absolutely good enough" for you is not necessarily good enough for someone else. You seem to think that any opinion other than yours is "foolish" and "nonsense" and you're opinion is the only "sensible", and "common sense" solution......
You seem to believe that name calling, somehow bolsters your opinion. Belittling others opinions/experience does not make what you believe to be a fact.....
Lighten up Francis... you need to get over yourself....
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