Baker Attitude Adjuster
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Baker Attitude Adjuster
We are about to install one of these in a 09 touring bike and after seeing some of the pic's of broken and bent ones out there we are rethinking it. I've had one for about 4000 miles in my bike, but i think it looks bent to me. I took pic's and E-Mailed them to baker and they are telling me it's fine. The chain is wearing uneven into the shoe. How many people out there are having problem with their Baker adjusters ?
I'm giving thought to reinstalling my factory one and just welding it.
I'm giving thought to reinstalling my factory one and just welding it.
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Take a look at the new one that Baker has come out with to solve that problem.....
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I dont know
I had about 10k on mine before I added the Armored upgrade (just because it was available and I was opening it up anyway to check the tension) and I saw no problems with it and (knock-on-wood,) havent had any since.
I have seen pics of some of those failed ones on here and just scratched my head.
The chain tore up those things. Mine had nowhere near the wear in it those pics showed, in fact it barely had any marks in it at all, so I chose not to install the new shoe that came with the upgrade. It also did not have the wear patterns they showed, with chain marks up on the metal support.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
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I had about 10k on mine before I added the Armored upgrade (just because it was available and I was opening it up anyway to check the tension) and I saw no problems with it and (knock-on-wood,) havent had any since.
I have seen pics of some of those failed ones on here and just scratched my head.
The chain tore up those things. Mine had nowhere near the wear in it those pics showed, in fact it barely had any marks in it at all, so I chose not to install the new shoe that came with the upgrade. It also did not have the wear patterns they showed, with chain marks up on the metal support.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
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I dont know
I had about 10k on mine before I added the Armored upgrade (just because it was available and I was opening it up anyway to check the tension) and I saw no problems with it and (knock-on-wood,) havent had any since.
I have seen pics of some of those failed ones on here and just scratched my head.
The chain tore up those things. Mine had nowhere near the wear in it those pics showed, in fact it barely had any marks in it at all, so I chose not to install the new shoe that came with the upgrade. It also did not have the wear patterns they showed, with chain marks up on the metal support.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
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I had about 10k on mine before I added the Armored upgrade (just because it was available and I was opening it up anyway to check the tension) and I saw no problems with it and (knock-on-wood,) havent had any since.
I have seen pics of some of those failed ones on here and just scratched my head.
The chain tore up those things. Mine had nowhere near the wear in it those pics showed, in fact it barely had any marks in it at all, so I chose not to install the new shoe that came with the upgrade. It also did not have the wear patterns they showed, with chain marks up on the metal support.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
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I do have the Armored adjuster in mine and it's looks to bent be slightly bent. The one we are getting ready to install is the Armored one also. I guess we will see how it does
I have always had alot of faith in the Baker products but after seeing some of these failures it makes you wonder. I'm more worried about the safety of the thing when and if it would break.
I have always had alot of faith in the Baker products but after seeing some of these failures it makes you wonder. I'm more worried about the safety of the thing when and if it would break.
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The chain tore up those things. Mine had nowhere near the wear in it those pics showed, in fact it barely had any marks in it at all, so I chose not to install the new shoe that came with the upgrade. It also did not have the wear patterns they showed, with chain marks up on the metal support.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
Did they check the run-out before they installed?
Did they check the alignment of the sprockets?
Did they install and adjust it properly, and check the adjustment at recommended intervals?
What kind of power were they producing, and how were they using it?
I have not seen a reason to doubt that product.
With 4,928 miles, it was destroyed. Never mind any where on the shoe itself, my primary chain had taken to chewing off the metal from the shoe mount because it was snapped off. People that work/worked for Baker have seen this and their response is similar to Harley's would be - "They all do that," or "It's normal."
Sorry, but it's not normal. I've gone back to a stock tensioner. It's not bent, and I've pulled the cover off to check it's tightness. It's perfectly adjusted. The auto tensioner was redesigned to resolve the over-tightening that many of us have tried to get ahead of. I actually feel more confident with it in the bike than anything else I've run.
As for its installation, I am positive that it was installed correctly. With an S&S crankshaft, I am sure my runout was better than stock. With a solid sprocket, my alignment was perfect as well. Chain tension was set correctly, and it was checked at 1000 miles. Since it didn't make it to 5k, I didn't have to worry about checking it again.
Admittedly, I do have a 124" engine. It makes good power, but I ride conservatively. No burnouts, not ever. I don't do hole shots, I don't ride aggressively and I know where to keep engine speeds for the bike to perform its best. Typically I am between 2800-3200 RPMs. Basically, I don't beat the bike.
Baker's primary chain adjuster, armored or not, is just junk. Their customer service is lacking lately, as evidenced in several threads recently.
If I had it to do again, I would pass and stay stock.
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We are about to install one of these in a 09 touring bike and after seeing some of the pic's of broken and bent ones out there we are rethinking it. I've had one for about 4000 miles in my bike, but i think it looks bent to me. I took pic's and E-Mailed them to baker and they are telling me it's fine. The chain is wearing uneven into the shoe. How many people out there are having problem with their Baker adjusters ?
I'm giving thought to reinstalling my factory one and just welding it.
I'm giving thought to reinstalling my factory one and just welding it.
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Hearing and seeing pics of issues on Facebook. Maybe something's changed.
I run Southern Oregon Hot Bikes hydraulic tensioners in each of my bikes. Working well so far.
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I run Southern Oregon Hot Bikes hydraulic tensioners in each of my bikes. Working well so far.
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I don't think Baker has solved this problem. I was also in disbelief that they would bend. When I saw the updated Armored adjuster, I thought certainly the problem was resolved. So I bought one.
With 4,928 miles, it was destroyed. Never mind any where on the shoe itself, my primary chain had taken to chewing off the metal from the shoe mount because it was snapped off. People that work/worked for Baker have seen this and their response is similar to Harley's would be - "They all do that," or "It's normal."
Sorry, but it's not normal. I've gone back to a stock tensioner. It's not bent, and I've pulled the cover off to check it's tightness. It's perfectly adjusted. The auto tensioner was redesigned to resolve the over-tightening that many of us have tried to get ahead of. I actually feel more confident with it in the bike than anything else I've run.
As for its installation, I am positive that it was installed correctly. With an S&S crankshaft, I am sure my runout was better than stock. With a solid sprocket, my alignment was perfect as well. Chain tension was set correctly, and it was checked at 1000 miles. Since it didn't make it to 5k, I didn't have to worry about checking it again.
Admittedly, I do have a 124" engine. It makes good power, but I ride conservatively. No burnouts, not ever. I don't do hole shots, I don't ride aggressively and I know where to keep engine speeds for the bike to perform its best. Typically I am between 2800-3200 RPMs. Basically, I don't beat the bike.
Baker's primary chain adjuster, armored or not, is just junk. Their customer service is lacking lately, as evidenced in several threads recently.
If I had it to do again, I would pass and stay stock.
With 4,928 miles, it was destroyed. Never mind any where on the shoe itself, my primary chain had taken to chewing off the metal from the shoe mount because it was snapped off. People that work/worked for Baker have seen this and their response is similar to Harley's would be - "They all do that," or "It's normal."
Sorry, but it's not normal. I've gone back to a stock tensioner. It's not bent, and I've pulled the cover off to check it's tightness. It's perfectly adjusted. The auto tensioner was redesigned to resolve the over-tightening that many of us have tried to get ahead of. I actually feel more confident with it in the bike than anything else I've run.
As for its installation, I am positive that it was installed correctly. With an S&S crankshaft, I am sure my runout was better than stock. With a solid sprocket, my alignment was perfect as well. Chain tension was set correctly, and it was checked at 1000 miles. Since it didn't make it to 5k, I didn't have to worry about checking it again.
Admittedly, I do have a 124" engine. It makes good power, but I ride conservatively. No burnouts, not ever. I don't do hole shots, I don't ride aggressively and I know where to keep engine speeds for the bike to perform its best. Typically I am between 2800-3200 RPMs. Basically, I don't beat the bike.
Baker's primary chain adjuster, armored or not, is just junk. Their customer service is lacking lately, as evidenced in several threads recently.
If I had it to do again, I would pass and stay stock.
I am at a loss to explain how the chain not only chewed and broke the main support (with the “armored” support supposedly in place), but was flopping around so bad that it also galled the main metal support, and the shoe as well, in areas the chain should never touch, never ever!
I cannot conceive in my mind how, if properly installed and everything within tolerance that occurred.
Please explain.
Obviously there are many members here who want to know.
BTW, what did you replace it with that was better?
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Last edited by IKnowNot; Sep 8, 2019 at 01:28 AM.