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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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Just putting this out there. It's been a long road of troubleshooting with a primary leak on my 07 RK. I thank Allen for all of his patience with troubleshooting with me. So after a lot of parts, alot of money, it appears my primary leak was coming from the starter clutch. I saw one forum on here that mentioned a primary leak seeping from the starter hole and that's what was wet and soaked after a decent ride. Put in an all ***** starter clutch and so far so good.

Now I'm not sure if I'm just going crazy at this point or it seems my primary is a little noisy. Hot or cold, clutch in or out I hear a whirring noise. Music playing in my ears and my V&H pipes and i dont hear **** so hard to say if it was there before or not. Could it be oil condition causing this ? It looks pretty muddy. I just don't feel like being 500 miles from my house and having the primary blow up my leg.

Thanks for listening, looking forward to input.

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Primaries are noisy. In fact everything about a Harley is noisy. Your probably just listening closer because you just worked on it and what you think is a new noise was there all along. I find myself doing this a lot. Every time a new noise has been because of a real problem, it left little doubt that something required attention.
 
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Primaries are noisy. In fact everything about a Harley is noisy. Your probably just listening closer because you just worked on it and what you think is a new noise was there all along. I find myself doing this a lot. Every time a new noise has been because of a real problem, it left little doubt that something required attention.

Yeah its definitely a new noise. It really sounds like it's coming from the starter, possibly traveling down toward the primary. I pulled the primary cover off, nothing broken but I did notice that the starter jack gear isn't fully retracted in. Which would lead me to believe the starter is spinning with the engine running. This shouldn't be happening correct ? That jack gear should not be in contact with the flywheel until you crank it right ? Im thinking something got ****ed up by taking the starter apart. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 04:15 PM
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Primaries are noisy. In fact everything about a Harley is noisy. Your probably just listening closer because you just worked on it and what you think is a new noise was there all along. I find myself doing this a lot. Every time a new noise has been because of a real problem, it left little doubt that something required attention.
Guess you can call it more like a loud buzzing noise not whirring. Put my hand on the starter and it feels like its spinning with the engine running.
 
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Your right. The starter gear should be retracted and not in contact with the clutch basket gear unless you are pushing the start button.
 
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Your right. The starter gear should be retracted and not in contact with the clutch basket gear unless you are pushing the start button.

I pulled the starter again. Im able to push that jack gear in another 1/4 inch before it bottoms out. When I release it , it springs forward to the original location.

I thought I can put power to the starter to see if I hear the noise but all I can get it to so is pop that gear out even further.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 10:06 PM
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Might have figured it out. I had 2 of the steel ***** installed. Apparently the new starter clutch came with one in there already!! Gear pushes all the way in now but I have to go to work so I wont know till tomorrow morning if its solved.
 
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No ****. Just an oring on the starter sepratating the starter from primary. But it is also above the oil. How much oil can it leak way up there? I got mine off at this moment.
 
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There's a 2nd o ring inside . It's either that O ring or the starter clutch itself. The oil gets all the way into the starter and leaks through that little hole on the bottom.
 
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When i bought the All ***** starter jack it came with a warning slip inside the sealed package about the already installed steel ball
 
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