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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 07:32 PM
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So, lets say I flush my fluid out as if it is a non-ABS system, then go exercise the ABS on a loose surface or with hard stops, then flush again. Why would that not work clean fluid into the whole system?
A couple roads that turn off the BRP that I like to ride are gravel;
I have noticed when I brake, like on washboard, the ABS activates.
You know, going slow, downhill.
Then, I just flush as normal. If it looks like water in the fluid or I
think it is dirty, I'll do it again.
This is on my '16 Street Glide.

I haven't tried it on my '18 Ultra, but I don't see why it won't work.

This seems to work for me.
I could take the bike to a dealer; I choose not to.
 

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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by caulk04
So, lets say I flush my fluid out as if it is a non-ABS system, then go exercise the ABS on a loose surface or with hard stops, then flush again. Why would that not work clean fluid into the whole system?
I do this on a 150 ft long hard packed dirt surface on my property and am confident it does whats necessary. Do several rear stops and several front stops. Sometimes pumping the brake, sometimes constant braking. Similar to what abs tools procedures are. Braking on asphalt imo is not good enough and is no comparison to what I described.

Forgot to mention, when rear braking and after getting up to speed, I put the bike in neutral to remove all the drive train backlash and noise. This makes for a calm abs braking experience

Regarding the abs tools, "part of me" thinks theirs too much of a stress like test. Given the high rate of speed at which the valves are exercised, combined with the duration at which the valves are exercised, could produce an unnecessary failure. Maybe the stress test does detect a weaker abs system that could fail. However, real world abs braking requires only a very small fraction of what those tools do. It reminds me of revving the engine for 10 secs at 10,000 rpm to ensure it wont blow up at 6000 rpms when the rev limiter hits for only a second or two.

Again, I have no idea... just doing what works for me...

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Old Jul 15, 2020 | 11:26 PM
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$180 bucks at my dealer including new fluid. Will probably do it rather than deal with the hassles. Mine will be due (2 years) near the end of the riding season in October.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by caulk04
So, lets say I flush my fluid out as if it is a non-ABS system, then go exercise the ABS on a loose surface or with hard stops, then flush again. Why would that not work clean fluid into the whole system?
Please don't do that. You place yourself or someone around you in danger.

You can flush the ABS yourself using the ITM1 tool in under an hour. $190, or 1.2x a single HD visit.

Plus you have the satisfaction of doing it right yourself.

look here

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ding-tool.html
 

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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rozemab
Please don't do that. You place yourself or someone around you in danger.
Do tell, danger how? I've no desire to buy a tool for $190 that I'll use, at best, once a year.

FWIW - The way I worded my original query is somewhat misleading because it is what I already do. I didn't want to present it as gospel, nor particularly recommend it to anyone, so I was essentially asking for someone to give me solid evidence as to why that wouldn't accomplish the same thing.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by caulk04
Do tell, danger how? I've no desire to buy a tool for $190 that I'll use, at best, once a year.

FWIW - The way I worded my original query is somewhat misleading because it is what I already do. I didn't want to present it as gospel, nor particularly recommend it to anyone, so I was essentially asking for someone to give me solid evidence as to why that wouldn't accomplish the same thing.
Capt,

I do not disrespect your position. If you're comfortable with it, go for it. Like you said I would not recommend it to anyone else.

At one time you could buy different color brake fluid. I attempted to purge my BMW ABS system using the your method, and many others (injection, vacuum, combo) and I could never get a clear cross over to the new fluid color. I could only get the color exchange by following the factory steps of power bleeding using the ABS pump, and a few $s at my dealer.

I suspect the problem is in actual use (forcing the ABS pump to run why skidding), the ABS pump does not run long enough to purge the inner chambers.

During a factory bleed the pump runs for 15-20 secs, in series while operating the valves, for several cycles. It actually sucks almost all of the fluid out of the reservoirs.

I just wanted to share with you my experience. If it works for you, good.



 
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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 05:48 PM
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It is far more easier and way less expensive to eliminate the ABS system. I am sure I will hear how bad that idea is yet I have been riding for 30+ years many of which was long before ABS existed without any problems.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 06:26 PM
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It is far more easier and way less expensive to eliminate the ABS system. I am sure I will hear how bad that idea is yet I have been riding for 30+ years many of which was long before ABS existed without any problems.
It`s not far more easier, and not less expensive.

Disabling the anti lock system could put you in a bad spot with insurance (or anyone else involved) if you are involved in an accident).

I`ve been riding 50 years (many decades before anti lock brakes on motorcycles was available), and I would not consider eliminating the AB system, not on a motorcycle, automobile, or truck.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 07:02 PM
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To each their own.
 
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"I would not consider eliminating the AB system, not on a motorcycle, automobile, or truck"



yeah but what other abs you know of leaves you with NO brakes if the abs module fails


 

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