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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Krobinson

When I try to pump air into the shocks, they won't take any air in as if they are full which I know can't be the case. I also can't get any reading when I check the air pressure.
Pressure is pressure... any pump (hand or otherwise) that can pump to the range needed (aren't the newer shocks like 50psi max?) can pump them up. The problem is with most pumps, their pump volume is large and could lead to a quick fill, and overpressure... The overpressure can damage the shocks.. The HD pump is a low flow/volume design, so it's less likely to overfill and overpressure the shocks quickly..

If they were already blown, I would suspect you would be able to put air into them, but hear it escaping rapidly...

If the valve won't let air in or out (allowing you to check the pressure), first make sure (as someone suggested) that there is enough of the valve stem, protruding from the mount, to allow for the gauge or pump to actually activate the core of the valve by pushing down on the center pin and opening the valve...

Also, don't rule out the schrader valve itself... you can buy a new valve core and swap it out with a special tool.... to ensure the valve itself is working properly....

Something like this...


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They are available at any bike/auto parts place..

Not on my old air shocks, but on my road bicycle, I've had a valve core become loose, and it causes all sorts of leaks, filling, and pressure checking issues...

Good luck with the repair...
 

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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 03:11 AM
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I would have to guess that maybe most cheap bicycle pump valves won't go on deep enough to release the schrader valve. That would explain why you couldn't add any air to them. I have the the HD pump and keep it in the saddlebag in case I ever need to add any air out on the road. It screws on tight & very little, if any air loss when removing.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 08:32 AM
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You might have blown your shocks when you used the bicycle pump. The low volume hand pumps only pump out about 1-2 pounds each time you pump it so as not to overinflate the shocks.
A bike pump or air compressor will pump out a higher volume and can possibly damage the shock. I bet you either blew them or you have a severe leak somewhere in the lines.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks to everyone for all of the information. I'll likely look at replacing the shocks down the road with something besides the OEM air shocks. In the meantime, I'll try the HD pump and if that doesn't work out, I'll check the air lines.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 04:20 PM
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Pull the schrader valves stems and clean then. The channels can get blocked up with crap over time, and will not allow any air to pass through them.

Also, once cleaned, use a little fork fluid on the end seals to re-lube them, so the seal correctly.

As for shock pump, if someone installed too short of a schrader valve stems, the pump will not depress the end button to open the channels.
So ends of tips of the stems should only be about 1/8" below the end of the stem.

 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dano523



Pull the schrader valves stems and clean then. The channels can get blocked up with crap over time, and will not allow any air to pass through them.

Also, once cleaned, use a little fork fluid on the end seals to re-lube them, so the seal correctly.

As for shock pump, if someone installed too short of a schrader valve stems, the pump will not depress the end button to open the channels.
So ends of tips of the stems should only be about 1/8" below the end of the stem.
Thanks, I appreciate the detailed info.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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Look for a set of the hand adjustable HD shocks. I ditched my air shocks for a set of 13" HD shocks and it made a big difference in the ride.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bobter3
Look for a set of the hand adjustable HD shocks. I ditched my air shocks for a set of 13" HD shocks and it made a big difference in the ride.
Not sure if they are still for sale, but there was a set posted over in the classifieds earlier this week. They can usually be had for a decent price.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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Not mine, just saw them in Take-Off section
 
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Old Jan 23, 2021 | 07:39 AM
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My no loss HD shock pump leaks as I finish pumping up the shocks. This is with individual valves mounted right on top of the shocks. The tubing just would not seal and the pump leaks. What I did was fill my air tank from my air compressor to 20 pounds and filled the shocks from the tank. Checked that they were not leaking air with a regular good quality pressure gauge a couple of days later. When you check them you lose pressure so its not an accurate measurement of pressure, I'm just making sure its not zero from leakage. Now I know what ever pressure I put in from the tank is the pressure in the shocks. The volume of air in the shocks is so small that the pressure in the tank doesn't change when I do this.
 
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