$$ BAKER or SCREAMING EAGLE COMPENSATOR
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From: backwoods
I got over 70k on 07. I suppose much of it is riding style. I am not fast off the line. Curious what I will do when the time comes. Glueing the fitting in the harley one seems so hokey and worry something can come loose some day.
Last edited by Rounders; Jan 6, 2024 at 09:22 AM.
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@chriscalabro I agree with Taxgod4u....... my MOW had neutral rattle pretty bad on my 14 SG. Bad enough to put the OEM Comp, (the one I disliked enough to install the MOW in the first place), back in and like it better. My next comp will be a Baker. Here are a few threads to read through to help with your decision on what you may/may not want to install on your bike. There are plenty more threads on the forum, pro & con, about the MOW. Just do a search and you'll find them.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/prima...man-o-war.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/prima...ensator-2.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/prima...man-o-war.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/prima...ensator-2.html
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From: backwoods
What I question is, are some of these more for hard use than longevity. Some people were getting rid of the comp and going ridgid. I guess for hard use that might be ok, I don't know, but I also think the comp was designed for a reason.
the one that ended on 88s seemed to work pretty good. Was it that simply couldn't handle power of new engines? Why did harley re-design in 2006/2007?
Evos were getting built up for years, what were those guys doing? Up until not that long ago, some people though evo was the motor to build, generational those guys probably still do.
the one that ended on 88s seemed to work pretty good. Was it that simply couldn't handle power of new engines? Why did harley re-design in 2006/2007?
Evos were getting built up for years, what were those guys doing? Up until not that long ago, some people though evo was the motor to build, generational those guys probably still do.
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I'm currently getting the parts together to do my compensator (including primary overhaul), drive belt and rear sprocket.
The Baker Cruise Drive Primary Bundle will cost me $1230 (CAD) to my door, then I'll have to get a new rotor still.
The HD Compensator Kit costs $528 (CAD) from my local dealer.
All in for the whole job (Comp, belt, sprocket and gaskets/ seals) the parts list from the local HD Dealer comes to $1270
What would you do?? I like the idea of the Baker set up but it comes at a premium. Is it worth it?
P.S. I'm on an 2007 Electra Glide approaching 100,000 kms.
Thanks!!
I had my primary rebuilt a couple of years ago as well, new SE Comp, new clutch, new chain, and new rear sprocket (the one that the starter engages). If I could go back and choose the Dark Horse, I would. The cool part about the DH is that it is repairable, the rubber cushions can be replaced when they wear out.
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What I question is, are some of these more for hard use than longevity. Some people were getting rid of the comp and going ridgid. I guess for hard use that might be ok, I don't know, but I also think the comp was designed for a reason.
the one that ended on 88s seemed to work pretty good. Was it that simply couldn't handle power of new engines? Why did harley re-design in 2006/2007?
Evos were getting built up for years, what were those guys doing? Up until not that long ago, some people though evo was the motor to build, generational those guys probably still do.
He's definitely a Harley cheerleader, and ignores the fact that it took Harley 5/6 years to get it right..... but there is a lot of useful info in this video, that covers the changes...
I love the part where he says the Harley engineers said.. "we got a good design here here, but it's not lasting..." Really..? I thought good designs by definition would last...??
Anyways, this will answer a lot of your questions...
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From: backwoods
You do wonder why the changes. What did big evos use?
The guy calls himself Doc,
He makes some mistakes on years too. I've seen this video before.
Just watched video from darkhorse. These are for guys building big and expensive bikes, who want the best, I am sure. I don't care for it only last 30-40 miles for average riders before it needs rebuilt. If that is your only bike, that isn't much,
For my 2007 I would have to change rotor. You also need to check alignment. Not as bolt on probably the harley. Still need to glue to oil deflector in. Was hoping to get away from that.
I am in the process of working on 17 year old bike 70k+ miles, not sure if it the route I want to go. I am not building up the engine. i am tempted to drive by and talk to them and see what they recommend.
He's definitely a Harley cheerleader, and ignores the fact that it took Harley 5/6 years to get it right..... but there is a lot of useful info in this video, that covers the changes...
I love the part where he says the Harley engineers said.. "we got a good design here here, but it's not lasting..." Really..? I thought good designs by definition would last...??
Anyways, this will answer a lot of your questions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGQrTt_cRY
I love the part where he says the Harley engineers said.. "we got a good design here here, but it's not lasting..." Really..? I thought good designs by definition would last...??
Anyways, this will answer a lot of your questions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGQrTt_cRY
He makes some mistakes on years too. I've seen this video before.
Just watched video from darkhorse. These are for guys building big and expensive bikes, who want the best, I am sure. I don't care for it only last 30-40 miles for average riders before it needs rebuilt. If that is your only bike, that isn't much,
For my 2007 I would have to change rotor. You also need to check alignment. Not as bolt on probably the harley. Still need to glue to oil deflector in. Was hoping to get away from that.
I am in the process of working on 17 year old bike 70k+ miles, not sure if it the route I want to go. I am not building up the engine. i am tempted to drive by and talk to them and see what they recommend.
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I thought the issue was the engine power output was growing and the existing compensator/spring pack wasn't adequate for the power output. Do you disagree with that reasoning that was provided by Doc Harley?
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they were beefing the **** out of them 88” motors then??. There are a lot of smarter people than me with engineering knowledge and degrees. I’m sure they said , hey we can make it better, maybe?
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From: backwoods
Year ago, people thought evos were the engine for builds. What did they do? Was there cures for evos? Did they just fail, and get rebuilt as the way things are done? Or did harley fuc up an anvil?