Help me choose , TTS or PV ?
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When the tuner I was using preferred TTS that is what I used. My 13 CVO King is tuned with TTS. New tuner closer to me prefers Power Vision, so the 19 CVO RG is tuned with that. Both are great. Go with what your tuner prefers.
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From the many threads I have read this is the crux of the problem with the FP3. As long as the canned map works you are golden.
It is those anomalous occasions where the only real way to get the correct tune is with a dyno and at that point you need a tuner that the guy can hook up to.
It is those anomalous occasions where the only real way to get the correct tune is with a dyno and at that point you need a tuner that the guy can hook up to.
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Ok , I'm going to the indy today and get a quote on the tts / dyno . I'm beginning to think that I'd be better off to just take it in and get it done . My lack of knowledge with technology is my downfall , that and the fact I'm getting to old for this sh*t , I just want to ride . 
Dave , appreciate you chiming in sir .
Dave , appreciate you chiming in sir .
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A number of years ago I went with the TTS. All the research pointed me in that direction. I installed the tuner on the bike I put a canned map in I even did the tuning myself and was extremely happy with the results. 2 years after that I took the bike to my local tuner as I always kind of wondered well what if, and he tuned it with my TTS cause hes a TTS guy and got even more Power from it. That bike was amazing I rode it for years. I sold the bike and the tuner. I now have a new Milwaukee and it will also get TTS as that's something I'm familiar with and satisfied with. It does cost a little more but for me I feel happy with my decision and am certainly getting the full results i want
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Ok , I'm going to the indy today and get a quote on the tts / dyno . I'm beginning to think that I'd be better off to just take it in and get it done . My lack of knowledge with technology is my downfall , that and the fact I'm getting to old for this sh*t , I just want to ride .
Dave , appreciate you chiming in sir .
Dave , appreciate you chiming in sir .
Not a bad choice....
Many skip over the fact that good, experienced dyno tuners are in the minority of choices available.... There are many out there who are only fair to poor, IMHO. The few that take their time, and do it right, are worth the cost... Especially if you have one local to you...
When I bought my PV, there were no good dyno tuners that I knew of, within a full days ride. With the powervision I could be somewhat self sufficient with my tuning needs...
Since you don't have a tuner yet, you're not interested in "learning" how to use a tuner, and you have a good Indy shop near you who you trust (very important!) that does dyno tunes.... It's probably best for you to go your local Indy and the TTS route...
Good luck with your decision....
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Thanks for your comment , my wife brought up a good point last night , she mentioned that since I had my cams installed at the indy , why not get them to do it , this way , I don't have to do anything accept drop the bike off and pick it up , I trust the indy and know that they would do an extremely good job of getting it running right , but the cost for getting it done with the tts is going to more than double , decisions .
Buy once, cry once - it is worth doing it right the first time and not having to look back just being able to hop on your bike and ride it without thinking about it, or having to try to accept sub-par performance or rideability issues is worth the price of admission. As you can see from my sig, been there, done that. My FatBoy went through this exact scenario, and once I had it dynod by Bob it has run amazingly well over the past 8 years or so.
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Not a bad choice....
Many skip over the fact that good, experienced dyno tuners are in the minority of choices available.... There are many out there who are only fair to poor, IMHO. The few that take their time, and do it right, are worth the cost... Especially if you have one local to you...
When I bought my PV, there were no good dyno tuners that I knew of, within a full days ride. With the powervision I could be somewhat self sufficient with my tuning needs...
Since you don't have a tuner yet, you're not interested in "learning" how to use a tuner, and you have a good Indy shop near you who you trust (very important!) that does dyno tunes.... It's probably best for you to go your local Indy and the TTS route...
Good luck with your decision....
Many skip over the fact that good, experienced dyno tuners are in the minority of choices available.... There are many out there who are only fair to poor, IMHO. The few that take their time, and do it right, are worth the cost... Especially if you have one local to you...
When I bought my PV, there were no good dyno tuners that I knew of, within a full days ride. With the powervision I could be somewhat self sufficient with my tuning needs...
Since you don't have a tuner yet, you're not interested in "learning" how to use a tuner, and you have a good Indy shop near you who you trust (very important!) that does dyno tunes.... It's probably best for you to go your local Indy and the TTS route...
Good luck with your decision....
I know I'm going to get that " I told you so " when I show up .
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unless youre intimately familiar and experienced, better to leave it to those who are.
Buy once, cry once - it is worth doing it right the first time and not having to look back just being able to hop on your bike and ride it without thinking about it, or having to try to accept sub-par performance or rideability issues is worth the price of admission. As you can see from my sig, been there, done that. My FatBoy went through this exact scenario, and once I had it dynod by Bob it has run amazingly well over the past 8 years or so.
Buy once, cry once - it is worth doing it right the first time and not having to look back just being able to hop on your bike and ride it without thinking about it, or having to try to accept sub-par performance or rideability issues is worth the price of admission. As you can see from my sig, been there, done that. My FatBoy went through this exact scenario, and once I had it dynod by Bob it has run amazingly well over the past 8 years or so.
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Let me throw a twist into the equation now . I went to the indy and explained my situation , they totally agreed with getting a dyno , however , they don't have any tts tuners right now and don't know when they'll be getting any .
They did however offer me something called a direct link dyno tune , they explained to me what it was and that it is in fact a cheaper way to go than the tts . The dyno will be the equivalent of a tts but with no tuner , which I wouldn't need anyway . They also said that if by any chance I have any issues with the tune , they would retune those parts right in their lot via laptop , sounds good to me .
The way I see it , I'll never need to mess around with my tune once I get it back , and if I need a touch up done , all I have to do is swing by their shop , done .
They have done many of these tunes and have had great responses from their customers .
What do you think ?
They did however offer me something called a direct link dyno tune , they explained to me what it was and that it is in fact a cheaper way to go than the tts . The dyno will be the equivalent of a tts but with no tuner , which I wouldn't need anyway . They also said that if by any chance I have any issues with the tune , they would retune those parts right in their lot via laptop , sounds good to me .
The way I see it , I'll never need to mess around with my tune once I get it back , and if I need a touch up done , all I have to do is swing by their shop , done .
They have done many of these tunes and have had great responses from their customers .
What do you think ?
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Let me throw a twist into the equation now . I went to the indy and explained my situation , they totally agreed with getting a dyno , however , they don't have any tts tuners right now and don't know when they'll be getting any .
They did however offer me something called a direct link dyno tune , they explained to me what it was and that it is in fact a cheaper way to go than the tts . The dyno will be the equivalent of a tts but with no tuner , which I wouldn't need anyway . They also said that if by any chance I have any issues with the tune , they would retune those parts right in their lot via laptop , sounds good to me .
The way I see it , I'll never need to mess around with my tune once I get it back , and if I need a touch up done , all I have to do is swing by their shop , done .
They have done many of these tunes and have had great responses from their customers .
What do you think ?
They did however offer me something called a direct link dyno tune , they explained to me what it was and that it is in fact a cheaper way to go than the tts . The dyno will be the equivalent of a tts but with no tuner , which I wouldn't need anyway . They also said that if by any chance I have any issues with the tune , they would retune those parts right in their lot via laptop , sounds good to me .
The way I see it , I'll never need to mess around with my tune once I get it back , and if I need a touch up done , all I have to do is swing by their shop , done .
They have done many of these tunes and have had great responses from their customers .
What do you think ?
That is all you need, the only benefit to owning the tuner would be the ability to purchase another license to tune other bikes with. If this is your only bike then purchasing a license from the dyno guy is all you need. Once the tune is done (as long as its done right) then you do not need the actual tuning device. A license should cost about half of what the actual tuner itself cost, then of course the fee for the dyno, usually $300-450 range for that.