I've been having issues tuning my bike since upgrading to stage 2 , tw222 cams . I've decided to go a different rout to rectify this .

My indy highly recommends the tts , in this case , it would cost me the price of the tuner and a few hrs on the dyno .
If I go with the PV , it would only cost me about half that much .

I've been doing a ton of research , and everything I've read , tells me that both these tuners are much better than the one I have now . Been a member here for quite awhile and know you guys seem to always recommend the PV .

Even though the tts is a guaranty that my bike will run flawlessly once done , I'm still leaning towards the PV , not only because of the price , but that fact it also shows data that I can use while riding , rpm , temp etc .

So , for those that have done cams and went with the PV , was the set up that easy , just an auto tune and your done ? Or did you end up doing a dyno ?

Yes , I would purchase it from FM , knowing that they will set up the unit for my specific bike , and the customer service is always there when you need it .

Hoping to hear your experience with the PV , before I decide .

Thanks in advance for any input that will help me make my decision , it's time to ride !

 

what tuner are you running now. my first engine upgrade besides the AN Big sucker were the TW222 cams. already had the FP3 with VH tweaked tune. bike ran great. went to 107 with ported heads and kept the 222 then went with PV from FM then to the dyno. I ride with the gauges.
that said my 103 and 107 both with the 222 ran well with FP3 tune and PV. I have no hands on experience with TTS.
good luck!

 

I have a PowerVision. I bought it for my 2012 Limited when I added a cam. I got a map from FuelMoto, did a basic Auto Tune, and the map got to 4% average change on the first 30 min session. It ran really well, and I kept it that way until I sold it .

I currently have the same PowerVision for my 2016 Bagger, and an additional license for my '03 Heritage. I even bought an Auto Tune Pro so I could auto tune my 2003, since it doesn't have OEM O2 sensors and AT basic isn't an option. I ran an AT Pro session on my '03 with a Big Bore kit that had the HD download tune, that was "tweaked" by DynoJet.... It ran better after that AT Pro. I also did a canned map and AT Pro for new cams in the '03 and it worked well.....

I also have licenses on my PowerVision for 3 really good friend's bikes. Two have just Stage I (for now) and the 3rd has an improved OEM tune from FuelMoto.. All are very happy with the way their bikes run...

I went with the PowerVision for three reasons:

1) It is very easy to use, very intuitive. The TTS has a kind of a "private club" type of aura around it. You can get help using/understanding the PowerVision from many sources.

2) I knew I wanted to add at least 4 bikes to my tuner when I bought it. With the PowerVision, you buy the tuner and then it's just $199 to add a bike license. You can add as many as you wish for $199 each. At the time I was researching tuners, the TTS would only allow you add one additional license to a tuner for about $199.... If you wanted to add more bikes, every other bike you would need to buy a new tuner @ $400+... The PV was much more cost effective if you wanted it for more than two bikes.

3) At the time I was researching tuners, many of the TTS tunes I read about were locked by the tuner... No way I am going to let someone who doesn't own my bike, and I may never see again, lock my ECM. If I pay for the tune, it's mine.. just the way I feel...

Again, not sure if things have changed with the TTS in # 2 or 3, but that's the way it was when I was shopping.

I've since dyno tuned my '03 Heritage. The dyno tuner was a TTS guy, but agreed to use my PV tuner and did a good job on the dyno tune. I also added a FuelMoto Street Outlaw 124" crate engine to my "16 Ultra Classic, and Jaime tuned it with my PV tuner.

I like my PowerVision. That doesn't mean the TTS can't do the same, or even better.. who really knows... but I'm satisfied with the PV and have no regrets...

Good luck with your decision...

 

I ran a canned FP3 tune on my twin-cooled 103 when it was still stock.

After installing 48H cams, a high flow breather and the Pro Pipe, I ran a canned FP3 map and an auto-tune.

Switched the Pro Pipe to Screamin’ Eagles, installed another canned FP3 map and an auto-tune.

Bike ran great every time.

Just recently, I had V&H tweak my map because I thought it was running a little rich at lower RPMs. Now, it runs even better.

You should let V&H have a look at your tune. Doing so might save you some money.

 

I have the FP3 , but so far I've done 2 separate auto tunes on 2 modified maps from V&H , but still have a jerkiness when I'm slowing down , never did this before than cams , so I'm sure it's a tuning issue .
Tomorrow , I have to take my bike out and record my O2 sensor readings and my rpm's , when it becomes bad , I have no idea why , and I'm somewhat becoming impatient , just want to ride .

Thanks Hatt , I think you just sold me on the PV , appreciate you taking the time to type all that out . I've never heard a bad thing out of the PV .

I would still like to hear other reviews about the PV , keep them coming .

 

I purchased a TTS and had my bike dynoed when I put an aftermarket cam in. Recently had Fuel Moto build and tune a 128 but they only tune with powervision so I had to purchase the PV. My recommendation is talk to who will be doing your dyno tune and use what they prefer to tune with. I’ve got a collection of tuners going for Harley M8’s, have a SE street tuner, FP3, TTS, and now a powervision. Lots of expensive paper weights, LoL

 

That's a very costly route.

 

Lol , it took me 3 years since my purchase to get my bike exactly the way I want it , only thing left is getting it running right . I'm trying to avoid the cost of a dyno , so the PV is a good choice for me , Gonna have to start my collection sooner or later .

I'm just having trouble understanding how the FP3 can work great for someone else with the same cams , but not for another , don't get it .

 

When I bought my bike back in 2008, I had the dealer do a stage 1 and they used the SEPT. A few years back, i swapped out the exhaust and also got an FP3 since it seemed like people were having good success with them. Never could get it to work right. Auto tune would only populate with yellow squares. I worked with V&H techs and they sent me a couple of maps, but I never felt it ran like it should. Last year I added cams and had it tuned with TTS, and it has never run better. It’s like a totally different bike now.

 

Thanks for your comment , my wife brought up a good point last night , she mentioned that since I had my cams installed at the indy , why not get them to do it , this way , I don't have to do anything accept drop the bike off and pick it up , I trust the indy and know that they would do an extremely good job of getting it running right , but the cost for getting it done with the tts is going to more than double , decisions .