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Old May 2, 2022 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynamick
Before the OP starts worrying about this possible issue, I'll just throw in here that all '20-later touring models had the primary vent installed at the factory and it has for the most part solved the transfer problem.
That would be correct. Totally forgot what year he had lol.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by johnanderson
OK, so the bike is at 950 miles (2022 Street Glide). Time for the Warranty 1000 mile checkup / oil change.
Dealer is closed until Tuesday.

I do have a few questions:
1. Are they going to charge me for this 1k check, or was the $30k enough to include an oil change?
2. Do they really need to keep my bike for 3 days? Seems like it should be an hour or 2 at the most.

Now the bigger question.
3. What warranty issues do the 2021 SG's commonly see? / Do I really need this warranty?

It seems the 2022 is identical to the 2021 except for paint.
The bike is running great - needs a tune better than the SE Pro Street can give it. Dealer installed Rinehart Slims/4" slip-ons, so there are wide O2 sensors.
Dealer really wants to Dyno-Tune the bike. Sounds like even more money.

I have done cams and head rebuilds myself in the past, with no help. Worked just fine. An oil change is easier than taking the bike into the shop. 50 miles one way with another vehicle to pick me. Once for delivery and again for pickup.

So, what is failing on the 2021 SG's, if anything?
  1. As previously stated, unless the first service was worked into your purchase agreement, it's yours to pay.
  2. Shops are busy, if the dealer tells you 3 days it's because of their schedule.
  3. Nothing major on the newer bikes. Do you have enough money to replace your engine or transmission should they fail, or at the very least, ability to repair yourself? If the answer is "no", you need your warranty.
What do you mean by "wide" O2 sensors? Wideband? That can't be done without Target Tune or similar. Not sure how slip-ons have anything to do with the O2 sensors, since they are in the header, not the mufflers. Further, if you only have slip-ons the SE tuner should be sufficient by itself.

Do the 1K service yourself. You can check everything your dealer would and get the whole thing done for cost of materials. Your warranty will remain intact, regardless of who does your 1K service.

Good luck.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 10:43 AM
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Think of the 1K service as a major service interval. Things can get loose or outta wack sometimes. If something needs fixing, most likely those are covered under warranty. A descent dealer will also check for any recalls on your bike.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by strych9
  1. As previously stated, unless the first service was worked into your purchase agreement, it's yours to pay.
  2. Shops are busy, if the dealer tells you 3 days it's because of their schedule.
  3. Nothing major on the newer bikes. Do you have enough money to replace your engine or transmission should they fail, or at the very least, ability to repair yourself? If the answer is "no", you need your warranty.
What do you mean by "wide" O2 sensors? Wideband? That can't be done without Target Tune or similar. Not sure how slip-ons have anything to do with the O2 sensors, since they are in the header, not the mufflers. Further, if you only have slip-ons the SE tuner should be sufficient by itself.

Do the 1K service yourself. You can check everything your dealer would and get the whole thing done for cost of materials. Your warranty will remain intact, regardless of who does your 1K service.

Good luck.
And keep the receipts for the parts used on the maintenance, oil filter etc.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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I had the dealership do my 1K service. I think it cost about $350.00 but I wanted it documented. I have since done the 5k, 10K, 15K, and plan to do the 20k at home this summer. I plan to have a local indy do the 25K service so he can Inspect, lubricate and adjust steering head bearings.
 
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Old May 2, 2022 | 01:53 PM
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I really have no skin in this game really since my ride is an '03 so almost all of the maintenance done is either by me - if I can and have the time and or tools/patience - or a really great independent H-D mechanic that I use here in NE Oklahoma. With that being said, I know guys I ride with that have newer bikes that are under warranty and can't hardly check oil without help. Had a hard time understanding that for a long time primarily because as a kid, I watched my Dad fix almost everything we had that ever broke around the house. Including neighbor's stuff. Cars, plumbing, electrical - it didn't matter and thankfully he passed that along to me.

As to the dealer service and records, remember that you are not compelled to have anything done by the dealer to maintain your warranty. For once the FTC is your friend.

https://motorcycleproject.com/text/laws.html
https://www.autocare.org/government-...s-Warranty-Act


 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 07:38 AM
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Good answers, all.

2 dealers local to me. one north 20 miles, one south 30 miles.
The one south is where I bought the bike - slammed with spring time service. Weeks out and leave the bike for who knows how long.
They also have a head tech that is almost angry and quite put out with questions. Dude, I am not a Harley master tech.

That said, I have done cams and jugs. Certainly a 3 hole oil change, and tuning an engine is not that hard.
At 1000 miles, this bike feels pretty good. Ain't nothing wrong with this bike.
Honestly, starting to feel like I am the warranty. And that's OK.
I've ridden HD for 40 years and never had a warranty. Heck, I never had a mechanic do work for me.
All this "New Bike" stuff is strange for me.

I'm going to go back to "I own this. I fix this." This time, I get no previous owners to guess about.
Thank you all.
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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@johnanderson May already have been mentioned but it bears repeating, grab a Factory Service Manual. If you have been wrenching on things yourself, you certainly understand the need for the genuine manual and it's importance. Keep your receipts and maintain a good record and it can be knocked out in a few hours. Plus, you'll have the added satisfaction of knowing you've done the inspection thoroughly and it will warrant an adult beverage or two upon successful completion. .
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 03:55 PM
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I don't see a printed 2022 Manual for the touring bikes (SG), yet. But I did find the PDF, which I have and will print. 3 ring binder.
Corrected: It is a 2021 Service Manual. Should be near identical.

I was 32550 in USAF, 73-76. F4-E Phantom Autopilot Tech. Following the manual was not an option.
Schematics, torque specs, proper tools - or people die.

Do it yourself - you KNOW it was done. Farm it out and maybe it was done, even at the dealership.
I do have a local indie tech should I get in over my head. And he doesn't get mad when I ask a question.
He has the tire tools that I don't have, and such like.
 

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Old May 3, 2022 | 03:59 PM
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Thanks, Dynamick. That's exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for.
 

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