Weird start issue
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From: backwoods
That year does not have a kick stand interlock
There is a clutch interlock. It probably has a connector in the fairing. But if you put it in neutral, you may not need the clutch interlock. But I suppose those are different wires. I am pretty sure when my interlock came open, I just put it in neutral. But you could have a different issue.
If the fob was dead, I am pretty sure it would ask for the pin across the screen.
You need to pay attention to what is going on, in detail. Document that not you story. details get lost one buried in a paragraph
does fuel pump come on, kill switch i believe blocks fuel pump, but everything else will be on
does dash come on
does head light come on, interlocks run through common connectors.
What do you do that it finally starts? if it is cycling the ignition it could be a bad switch.
When it doesn't start, stop do not touch anything. Get off the bike. Walk around. Note what is going on. Then still do not touch anything, and get out a meter. The problem in these situation is people start flipping and flopping switches. Starts, and they don't know why. You need to pay exact attention to what is going on. If you are not going to track it down with a meter, your only hope is pay attention.
There is a clutch interlock. It probably has a connector in the fairing. But if you put it in neutral, you may not need the clutch interlock. But I suppose those are different wires. I am pretty sure when my interlock came open, I just put it in neutral. But you could have a different issue.
If the fob was dead, I am pretty sure it would ask for the pin across the screen.
You need to pay attention to what is going on, in detail. Document that not you story. details get lost one buried in a paragraph
does fuel pump come on, kill switch i believe blocks fuel pump, but everything else will be on
does dash come on
does head light come on, interlocks run through common connectors.
What do you do that it finally starts? if it is cycling the ignition it could be a bad switch.
When it doesn't start, stop do not touch anything. Get off the bike. Walk around. Note what is going on. Then still do not touch anything, and get out a meter. The problem in these situation is people start flipping and flopping switches. Starts, and they don't know why. You need to pay exact attention to what is going on. If you are not going to track it down with a meter, your only hope is pay attention.
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From: Honah Lee
Doesn't the Cruiser with the LED screen say No FOB. I thought my friends CVO Dana even did that on the speedometer odometer display.
Back long ago his girlfriend dropped him off to get his Dana at my house. He drove off with FOB in my pocket. He called me a few hours later stuck at a gas station.
Back long ago his girlfriend dropped him off to get his Dana at my house. He drove off with FOB in my pocket. He called me a few hours later stuck at a gas station.
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From: backwoods
Doesn't the Cruiser with the LED screen say No FOB. I thought my friends CVO Dana even did that on the speedometer odometer display.
Back long ago his girlfriend dropped him off to get his Dana at my house. He drove off with FOB in my pocket. He called me a few hours later stuck at a gas station.
Back long ago his girlfriend dropped him off to get his Dana at my house. He drove off with FOB in my pocket. He called me a few hours later stuck at a gas station.
The other question that should always be asked is do they have some kind of secruity besides just the plain fob.
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From: Honah Lee
Don't think bikes since they are classified as sport utility are even required to now.
They should be and with what technology is today have the latest OB2 computer systems.
I like alarm system on my 04. Doesn't have the siren and when I rode, unless left out all evening all I ever used to lock it. No biggie to set the pin 1& 2s. If FOB battery ever went, flip the ignition other way and rock the signal light switches left and right and it unlocks.
All this fusing about FOB batteries is silly
Now if the first poster does have have a clutch switch, a stand switch, and for sure has a relay, a off/on, and start on the bars, and a solenoid switch on starter, his issue can get complicated.
Pretty much, start with easy first. I would start at battery voltage and connection. Just having light does not get a crank .
My guess is his problem will be back . It should have flashed lights at least if it was FOB? Or am I wrong to think that?
Last edited by Jackie Paper; May 4, 2023 at 09:00 AM.
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From: backwoods
I am not sure when stand interlocks came out. But it was after his year in US. Which I am glad, I have had to run bike on stand.
I have 3 TCs so got some good guesses on what he has.
I have 3 TCs so got some good guesses on what he has.
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From: anacoco, la
harleys in the us do not have jiffy stand switches. except for maybe the police models.
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"Funny how many times it was mentioned"
It was mentioned one time on the first page, by a person in Canada 3 days ago ... then 2 guys informing him the US models don't have that, which was acknowledged, all on first page 3 days ago... thats it.
then today you, on page 3 bringing it up again, saying "That year does not have a kick stand interlock", which was technically correct...
then again today on page 3, you expressing your happiness that your bikes doesn't have one...
just an observation... but good to see you humor yourself.
It was mentioned one time on the first page, by a person in Canada 3 days ago ... then 2 guys informing him the US models don't have that, which was acknowledged, all on first page 3 days ago... thats it.
then today you, on page 3 bringing it up again, saying "That year does not have a kick stand interlock", which was technically correct...
then again today on page 3, you expressing your happiness that your bikes doesn't have one...
just an observation... but good to see you humor yourself.
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From: Honah Lee
Probably used the wrong term in my post. All cars have alarms now I think and most also have key interlock in the ignition switch. They are two seperate anti-theft devices.
The key interlock is a device that prevents crank and ignition unless the key with a chip is in it. Obliviously, don't think it's Federal mandate since we now have keyless cars. It also was left off by Hyundai on their cars.
You get get a free steering lock for them in a lot of states.
I have never seen a ignition interlock on a Harley. Now the alarm system does keep it also from starting. On a car before the alarm needed you to button it on, the key interlock was still there requiring that fat key with a chip in it.
Last edited by Jackie Paper; May 4, 2023 at 01:58 PM.
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From: backwoods
I am not a huge fan of interlocks they can fail. I hate to sound like dinosaur.
Connector came apart on new bike and clutch interlock failed. Crisis crossed with tywraps. Which I like to do
I put my kickstand down in a hole. Needed to walk it out with stand down with engine power.
I have started my bike in gear a number of times. No children died. Not a big deal.
I don't lock my bike typically. The fob is nice in that you don't have to, but some security. But as dinosaur I worry about failure eventually.
Connector came apart on new bike and clutch interlock failed. Crisis crossed with tywraps. Which I like to do
I put my kickstand down in a hole. Needed to walk it out with stand down with engine power.
I have started my bike in gear a number of times. No children died. Not a big deal.
I don't lock my bike typically. The fob is nice in that you don't have to, but some security. But as dinosaur I worry about failure eventually.