Hi guys. I’m looking at buying a 2001 ultra w/50k miles on it but the owner says it’s not running great and keeps setting code 11.i know the tps sensors are pretty common but what else should i look out for? He’s asking 3500 for it and I’m not so much interested in the cosmetics but i want the drivetrain solid. If i bought it I’d definitely check the timing tensioner because on my first 2001 it trashed my pump,cam plate etc. had to rebuild the whole top end. Thanks

 

Guessing that is Harley's first generation FI system.

Google says this.

from my 2001 service manual code 11 is battery voltage high , I would start with a check of the charging system a search in the electrical and wiring forum should reveal how to do this if you do not have a manual for your bike .

The TSM/TSSM continually checks the battery voltage during
IGN/OFF and IGN/RUN power modes. If the voltage exceeds
16.0 volts for more than 5.0ą0.5 seconds, the TSM/TSSM
sets DTC 11.
This DTC may set when the vehicle is placed on a a bat-tery
charger, on fast charge, for a long period of time.
The TSSM does not illuminate the security lamp when
this code is set as current.


Better leave this one for the experts. There is some good YouTube on the MM system . Parts are pretty rare from what others say on here.

 

About the DTC code 11:

Per the 2001 Factory Electrical Diagnostic Manual for the FLT models, "DTC 11 3.16" on page 3-48:

"GENERAL
The TSM/TSSM continually checks the battery voltage during IGN/OFF and IGN/RUN power modes. If the voltage exceeds 16.0 volts for more than 5.0+/- 0.5 seconds, the TSM/TSSM sets a DTC11"

"Table 3-22 Models affected" shows FLT with and without Security.

"DIANOSTICS

Diagnostic tips
This DTC may set when vehicle is placed on a battery charger, on fast charge (emphasis is mine), for a long period of time.
The TSSM does not illuminate the security lamp when the code is set as current.

Diagnostic notes
See charging system tests in Section 1 to correct. Problem may be faulty voltage regulator."


That bike has an issue with the charging system. It could be as simple as replacing the voltage regulator, but you will need to do tests to verify it.
Additionally, if it has been showing that code for awhile, 16v charging is not good for a battery in the long term, you may need a new battery too.



About the TPS:

That bike will not have nor support TPS from the factory. If it has TPS, they are an aftermarket add-on.


About the price:

Per Black Book Powersports:

Year: 2001
Make: Harley-Davidson
Model: FLHTCUI Ultra Classic EG
Model Type: Cruiser
Displacement: 1450
Cylinders: 2
VIN: 1HD1FCW11
Finance Advance: $3,450
MSRP: $18,980
Avg Retail: $4,500
Auction Wholesale $3,500
Clean Trade: $3,370
Fair Trade: $2,765

It sounds like it's rough cosmetically, has charging issues, may need a $1K cam tensioner upgrade, and who knows what else... If you have the skills to fix it yourself and want a project, I wouldn't pay over the Fair Trade numbers above, and would pay $2K. If you really want it, maybe $2500 based on a close inspection. If you need to hire an independent Shop to do the work.... I'd walk away from it..


About the "Timing tensioner".

I am assuming you are talking about the cam chain tensioners. They are a known problem on the early 88" twin cams. At 50k miles, they should be updated ASAP. That is labor intensive and the cheapest update, new tensioner pads made by CYCO, could be about $1K depending on labor rates in your area.


A couple of IMHO notes;

If you don't have the skills to check it and fix it yourself, be aware that some dealers are not working on HD bikes older than 10 years old, for fear of not being able to locate needed parts that are now obsolete from the MoCo. You'll need to find a good independent shop if you can't do the work.

That bike also has the older Magnetti Marelli EFI. The Magnetti Marelli EFI was good in its day, but it is getting harder to find parts, and there are fewer and fewer people who understand how to work on it. You need to be willing to learn about it, and work on it yourself, or a know of a good Independent Shop well versed in it's maintenance & repair. If you don't want to learn about it, or find a shop that can, I would walk away just based on the MM EFI...

Good luck with your decision... I hope this information helps

 

I can do the work myself so not an issue there. I owned a 2001 with the Magnetti Marelli system before. My main concern is running into a lot of issues and was curious if anyone had this issue before

 

My bad, didn't know your knowledge or ability level...


Short answer:

Per the electrical diagnostic manual, you have a charging issue... probably the voltage regulator. That issue won't affect the "bad running" issues....

 

it’s all good brother and thanks for the advice. I think I’m going to pass on it.