TC 96" cam swap
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TC 96" cam swap
I'm about ready to do a cam swap on my 2010 TC SG with 7XXX miles.
My current set up is D&D X Cat 2:2 head pipe with CFR slip ons and stock AC.
From D&D's website:
I will be adding a hi flow aftermarket AC and will be doing a dyno tune after everything is said and done. Don't plan on changing the exhaust to a 2-1, already have extended bags with dual cutouts and CFR's.
Question is, with my bike having such low miles, do I need to do a cam chest kit (Feuling for example) or can I get away with new adjustable pushrods/tubes, bearing, gasket, etc? I don't plan on going bigger in the future.
My current set up is D&D X Cat 2:2 head pipe with CFR slip ons and stock AC.
From D&D's website:
- The X Cat is a True X header and is a stepped header. Steps are starting at the head 1 5/8" to 1 3/4" to 1 7/8" to 1 3/4" where the muffler goes to the header.
- D&D exhaust systems are designed and dyno tested in our facility. We use the Harley Race Tuner in all our testing.
- Our systems are designed to increase low-end torque and horsepower.
- Performance increases on the X-CAT with our Slip-on Mufflers is about 8 to 10 percent depends on the tune on the bike.
I will be adding a hi flow aftermarket AC and will be doing a dyno tune after everything is said and done. Don't plan on changing the exhaust to a 2-1, already have extended bags with dual cutouts and CFR's.
Question is, with my bike having such low miles, do I need to do a cam chest kit (Feuling for example) or can I get away with new adjustable pushrods/tubes, bearing, gasket, etc? I don't plan on going bigger in the future.
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A ‘10 with only 7k? I’d check for “dry rot”…lol I’m kidding.
if it was me, your cam plate and pump are fine( don’t separate them) I’d change bearings, lifters and maybe tensioners cause you’re there anyway. New sprocket bolts .
You could also opt for gear drives if run out allows but your call.
And do let a tuner dial it in. Money well spent.
if it was me, your cam plate and pump are fine( don’t separate them) I’d change bearings, lifters and maybe tensioners cause you’re there anyway. New sprocket bolts .
You could also opt for gear drives if run out allows but your call.
And do let a tuner dial it in. Money well spent.
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A 10 with only 7k? Id check for dry rot
lol Im kidding.
if it was me, your cam plate and pump are fine( dont separate them) Id change bearings, lifters and maybe tensioners cause youre there anyway. New sprocket bolts .
You could also opt for gear drives if run out allows but your call.
And do let a tuner dial it in. Money well spent.
if it was me, your cam plate and pump are fine( dont separate them) Id change bearings, lifters and maybe tensioners cause youre there anyway. New sprocket bolts .
You could also opt for gear drives if run out allows but your call.
And do let a tuner dial it in. Money well spent.
What would be the difference with a gear drive?
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Twin cams prior to the hydraulic tensioners had very suspect spring tensioners. Many would change to gears to rid themselves of those tensioners and their potential issues should they fail. The caveat is the crank run out had to be a certain tolerance i believe.003 or under to use gears. The chain is more forgiving. Yours being a 10 I personally wouldn’t bother. I didn’t. I just upgraded the tensioners to Cyco and called it good. My OEM tensioners looked fine btw.
Good luck with your upgrade. Are you doing it yourself? What cam are you going with? The choices are many…..
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Normally I would say any time the camchest is open replace. But with only 7k, I dunno. I also normally say reuse the pushrods, if your cam allows and replace the gaskets and breather. You don't any miles on them. They are 15 years old.
i suppose I would do little as possible. Interesting.
i suppose I would do little as possible. Interesting.
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I'm looking at the Woods 777 or the Feuling 543. My SG is mostly used for solo/ 2up freeway driving. I want the torque between 3-4500 rpm, but I'm all ears if you have any suggestions.
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Google-“fuelmoto cam shootout” they compare a number of cams in 103ci . They cover the cams you mentioned and many more. Very good info and if you drop them a line they are very friendly and informative. Will not steer you wrong and phenomenal after sale service.
I personally went with the Andrews 48 due to feedback from others but others I’d consider are woods 222, cr570, s&s 551 to name a few.
if you’re uncertain do reach out to Fuelmoto you won’t regret it.
Also does your Indy have any thoughts on cam choice? Also if you’re going to be taking it to a tuner talk to them. They’ve seen a lot of cams and could give you some ideas.
I personally went with the Andrews 48 due to feedback from others but others I’d consider are woods 222, cr570, s&s 551 to name a few.
if you’re uncertain do reach out to Fuelmoto you won’t regret it.
Also does your Indy have any thoughts on cam choice? Also if you’re going to be taking it to a tuner talk to them. They’ve seen a lot of cams and could give you some ideas.
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The cams youre looking at would be more at home in a 103 or more compression. The Andrews 48 or something similar might be a better option. The cfrs arent known for torque either.
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My Indy guy recommended an Andrews cam, but I can't really find any dyno sheets for many those cams on a 96". Do you know of any?
As for the CFR's, I know. I've heard so much about tuning the low end. Problem is I love the sound.
Last edited by r8r_4_life; Dec 6, 2024 at 02:49 AM.