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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 09:33 AM
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There is a guy here on the forum that is a bearing expert. However, I can't seem to find him.
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In your opinion what are the better bearings ?
How about some cross reference numbers for these 25mm bearings . THANKS !
I am sure everyone could use them.
The good news is there are several great brands. Most brands made in the USA, Europe and Japan are very good.

The standard bearing for normal applications like electric motors and wheel bearings is an ABEC 3 classification.

I am partial to SKF which also markets under the MRC name. A German company that wrote the book on radial ball bearings and has long been the bench mark.

The common for a 25mm is their 6205-2RSC3 which is a double rubber sealed bearing lubed for life.

I cut my teeth on Fafnir, which is an old American made brand who also owned Torrington. Their number was 205-NPP. They were purchased around year 2000 by Timken which was Timken’s first move from tapered roller bearings into the world of ball bearings. Timken adapted the SKF numbering system. A huge plus for Timken is their bearing steel. Many do not know that Timken is the world’s leading producer of bearing steel. The best there is period.

*** from Europe is also an excellent quality bearing.

Then comes the Japanese brands, specifically NTN and Nachi. They are both excellent quality and have a long history in the automotive industry. I interviewed with Nachi many years back but they were looking for an engineering degree and sales experience in the automotive world.

In today’s time I think you see there are many great manufacturers out there. Over the years I was forced to sell thousands of bearings based on price point. Most of these were from the Asian rim and some were good and many were total junk. We had to learn which brokers focused on quality and stick with those that worked. A great bearing and value was KBC which stood for Korean Bearing Corp. I would never consider running them as wheel bearings in my motorcycle, but they were good bearings overall.

#1 SKF (6205-2RS C3 25mm ID x 52mm OD x 15mm Width)
#2 Timken
#3 ***

My opinion only. The biggest issue you will encounter is ABS bearings. They may be harder to find in these brand names. I need to do some research on those myself.

I hope this helps a little.

Regards,
Mark

https://cad.timken.com/item/deep-gro...64/6205-2rs-c3

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The only one I know of here is the wheel guy. multihdrdr.
 
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I am happy to try and help with a question or problem if I can. I spent 30 years as a distributor of bearings representing SKF / MRC, Timken, Bower / BCA, NTN, Nachi, Fafnir, Torrington, INA, IKO and many others. I went through factory training with most and have seen and learned a lot.

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In your opinion what are the better bearings ?
How about some cross reference numbers for these 25mm bearings . THANKS !
I am sure everyone could use them.
 
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Originally Posted by hardheaded
In your opinion what are the better bearings ?
How about some cross reference numbers for these 25mm bearings . THANKS !
I am sure everyone could use them.
The good news is there are several great brands. Most brands made in the USA, Europe and Japan are very good.

The standard bearing for normal applications like electric motors and wheel bearings is an ABEC 3 classification.

I am partial to SKF which also markets under the MRC name. A German company that wrote the book on radial ball bearings and has long been the bench mark.

The common for a 25mm is their 6205-2RSC3 which is a double rubber sealed bearing lubed for life.

I cut my teeth on Fafnir, which is an old American made brand who also owned Torrington. Their number was 205-NPP. They were purchased around year 2000 by Timken which was Timken’s first move from tapered roller bearings into the world of ball bearings. Timken adapted the SKF numbering system. A huge plus for Timken is their bearing steel. Many do not know that Timken is the world’s leading producer of bearing steel. The best there is period.

*** from Europe is also an excellent quality bearing.

Then comes the Japanese brands, specifically NTN and Nachi. They are both excellent quality and have a long history in the automotive industry. I interviewed with Nachi many years back but they were looking for an engineering degree and sales experience in the automotive world.

In today’s time I think you see there are many great manufacturers out there. Over the years I was forced to sell thousands of bearings based on price point. Most of these were from the Asian rim and some were good and many were total junk. We had to learn which brokers focused on quality and stick with those that worked. A great bearing and value was KBC which stood for Korean Bearing Corp. I would never consider running them as wheel bearings in my motorcycle, but they were good bearings overall.

#1 SKF (6205-2RS C3 25mm ID x 52mm OD x 15mm Width)
#2 Timken
#3 ***

My opinion only. The biggest issue you will encounter is ABS bearings. They may be harder to find in these brand names. I need to do some research on those myself.

I hope this helps a little.

Regards,
Mark

https://cad.timken.com/item/deep-gro...64/6205-2rs-c3

Amazon Amazon
 
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For the "Name" brands I would be careful who you buy from (e.g. ebay, amazon). Authorized dealers would be best, but more spendy.

This sounds weird, but counterfeit bearings is a real thing ...

https://www.timken.com/product/authentic-bearings/

https://www.stopfakebearings.com/
 
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The last set of wheel bearings I purchased at the local bearing supply house were labeled:
SKF Explorer
6205-2RSH/C3

What does the "H" mean? Is this bearing different/better than the 6205-2RS/C3?
 
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Originally Posted by LQQK_OUT
The last set of wheel bearings I purchased at the local bearing supply house were labeled:
SKF Explorer
6205-2RSH/C3

What does the "H" mean? Is this bearing different/better than the 6205-2RS/C3?
The "H" designates an 'enhanced seal', meaning it has a tighter contact. This will increase friction (and heat) and reduce speed capability but improve protection. I would not be concerned with your choice, the difference is negligible in this application. The improved protection surely outweighs the cons.

 
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Originally Posted by Harley_ish
For the "Name" brands I would be careful who you buy from (e.g. ebay, amazon). Authorized dealers would be best, but more spendy.

This sounds weird, but counterfeit bearings is a real thing ...

https://www.timken.com/product/authentic-bearings/

https://www.stopfakebearings.com/
100% people need to understand this. I have a buddy that works at SKF and he told me the counterfeits will look identical to the real deal. But, they use inferior steel, loose tolerances, inferior lubrication, improper lubrication amount, etc.

Sometimes they will say made in some country where SKF doesn't produce that bearing. SKF will NEVER say "Made in China" - they do not produce any SKF brand bearing in China (they do produce in China, but not for sale under the SKF brand to the general public). These 6205 bearings are also only produced in specific countries like Bulgaria, Argentina, Korea, and Brazil (just a few examples).

He also said something like 50% of the bearings on Amazon are counterfeit... They buy some occasionally to inspect them.
 
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