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Old Sep 19, 2025 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
The belt guard is basically an attempt to keep rocks and stuff from the belt. Your pictures look like the rubbery/fiber piece that runs vertically along the inside of the belt. The other portion of the guard is a hard plastic. The belt guards are there to help keep out rocks, so next time you have a tire off inspect it all.

The sprocket is starting to square, so it looks like it has miles. How much deflection is in the belt pushing up in the middle of the from the bottom when it is cold in inches?
pushing up with my finger it moves about 1/2 inch, maybe little more.So are u saying the rubbery stuff is made to the belt guard or its part of the belt coming apart? The belt looks fine to me. The bike has 42,000 miles on it but belts looks to have been changed at some point.
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger

Check the belt for being loose. If you don't understand the proper tension, spray it with some water and see if it goes away - very fast test. Loose belts squeek on initial decel and on/off throttle.

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The belt guard is basically an attempt to keep rocks and stuff from the belt. Your pictures look like the rubbery/fiber piece that runs vertically along the inside of the belt. The other portion of the guard is a hard plastic. The belt guards are there to help keep out rocks, so next time you have a tire off inspect it all.

The sprocket is starting to square, so it looks like it has miles. How much deflection is in the belt pushing up in the middle of the from the bottom when it is cold in inches?



Ed called it...!!

I was so busy trying to think of possible engine noises, I missed the easiest and most likely culprit, the belt....

Those pieces are most certainly the fiber/rubbery pieces of the lower belt guard.

While those pieces could have been causing the noise, don't forget to check the belt tension as Ed mentioned.

You'd do well to listen to Ed, he's one of the really smart guys on this forum..




Just in case you haven't removed the lower belt guard yet, it's part #60397-85B. It's a discontinued part by Harley. Here are some pics of what it looks like both undamaged and damaged.





















If you search "Harley #60397-85" on eBay, you will find several affordable, undamaged lower belt guards. One for $19.95.

Good luck with the repair...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2025 | 11:37 PM
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Looking at the picture of the top side of the belt, Post a picture of the inside of the belt, Looks like teeth are square??
 
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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 05:51 AM
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Ed called it...!!

I was so busy trying to think of possible engine noises, I missed the easiest and most likely culprit, the belt....

Those pieces are most certainly the fiber/rubbery pieces of the lower belt guard.

While those pieces could have been causing the noise, don't forget to check the belt tension as Ed mentioned.

You'd do well to listen to Ed, he's one of the really smart guys on this forum..




Just in case you haven't removed the lower belt guard yet, it's part #60397-85B. It's a discontinued part by Harley. Here are some pics of what it looks like both undamaged and damaged.





















If you search "Harley #60397-85" on eBay, you will find several affordable, undamaged lower belt guards. One for $19.95.

Good luck with the repair...
Yes those pieces I showed is definitely the inside of the belt guard.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by oldnslow
Looking at the picture of the top side of the belt, Post a picture of the inside of the belt, Looks like teeth are square??
I will definitely get a picture of the inside of the belt. What causes the belt to square? To me the inside and outside of the belt looks fine, no cracking or any signs of coming apart.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sevenznuf

I will definitely get a picture of the inside of the belt. What causes the belt to square? To me the inside and outside of the belt looks fine, no cracking or any signs of coming apart.


It's a sign of wear...

 
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I am not concerned about the rear sprocket starting to square at 40k, it's just aluminum pulley coated with industrial chroming on the teeth. It was just an observation and it's not that bad. If all goes well, by the time you change that belt, the front steel one will be square and sharp and the rear will look horrible. The belt will eventually show lines or cuts across it when the parts are really worn as the front steel pulley gets really square. You would not believe how stout a factory belt drive is. In reality, excessive looseness is harder on the belt.

Belt deflection on that bike is 5/16"-3/8" pushing up in the area where the belt guard has a window using 10 pounds of force - there is a special tool. If you are getting an easy 1/2" with just medium finger pressure the belt is loose.

You can always replace that fibery/rubber piece if you can't find a fairly priced replacement - it's just riveted on. You may need to be creative for the replacement material but it can't be hard and rigid. It has to be able to touch the rear tire at times and not cause damage. That part always gets rubbed to death - especially if someone went to a wider tire - it rubs on the sidewall and it normal to see. All you can do is make sure the rear tire is properly aligned in the swingarm. I wouldn't lose any sleep if it's just at the tire sidewall - it's one of those parts that tends to self-clearance. They also flip back and forth, and get "wavy" over time and the belt rubs them - again don't lose any sleep.
 

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Old Sep 26, 2025 | 07:52 PM
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So was it the belt or are we still working on it?
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
So was it the belt or are we still working on it?
I got under there and got the rest of the soft part of the belt guard off, it was laying up on the belt. Haven’t been able to ride it, raining a lot here! Are these motors known for having a “slight” lifter ticking noise? Like a loose rocker arm sound? That’s one of the noises when I’m riding it sounds like! Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate it!
 
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Yup it’s a flaw in the twincams. The rocker shafts have a flat that goes up against the side of the rocker support bolts to stop them from spinning. There’s clearance there so they tap back and forth. They make brass bushings call rocker lockers that can help eliminate that.
 
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