What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
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RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
ORIGINAL: ndotken
The IDS is a $300 part that masks the fact that your bike is a poorly engineered POS. ... There is no way that the design and engineering that went into the 07 models was far enough along to introduce it into production. All of us 07 owners were unwitting guinea pigs.
The IDS is a $300 part that masks the fact that your bike is a poorly engineered POS. ... There is no way that the design and engineering that went into the 07 models was far enough along to introduce it into production. All of us 07 owners were unwitting guinea pigs.
I disagree. I feel the bike is engineered quite nicely. Sure there are some corner cases where attention to detail could've been better, but overall it's a gem.
How many other first-run stuff have you bought that didn't have any gremlins appear between the hand-built prototypes and the production line? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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From: central florida
RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
ORIGINAL: ndotken
The IDS is a $300 part that masks the fact that your bike is a poorly engineered POS. As Mack so correctly stated, "The 06 and earlier bikes do not need it." There is no way that the design and engineering that went into the 07 models was far enough along to introduce it into production. All of us 07 owners were unwitting guinea pigs.
as are the 08 owners?????????????????
ORIGINAL: hennyk
May be a stupid question but what is a Isolated drive system?
May be a stupid question but what is a Isolated drive system?
as are the 08 owners?????????????????
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
ORIGINAL: glens
Tell us what you really think!
I disagree. I feel the bike is engineered quite nicely. Sure there are some corner cases where attention to detail could've been better, but overall it's a gem.
How many other first-run stuff have you bought that didn't have any gremlins appear between the hand-built prototypes and the production line? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Tell us what you really think!
I disagree. I feel the bike is engineered quite nicely. Sure there are some corner cases where attention to detail could've been better, but overall it's a gem.
How many other first-run stuff have you bought that didn't have any gremlins appear between the hand-built prototypes and the production line? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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From: Charleston, SC
RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
Bean counters again.....are you an Authority or are you simply conjecture-ing-ing?
lp
lp
ORIGINAL: glens
Or it was finally okayed by the bean counters after being vetoed the first time around. I don't recall hearing anything authoritative regarding it; is your statement fact or conjecture?
ORIGINAL: MACK
it was brought about to stop some of the noise that some riders complained about concerning the 6-speed transmission
it was brought about to stop some of the noise that some riders complained about concerning the 6-speed transmission
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RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
Decidedly unauthoritarian conjecture. But look how, by all reports, the printed shift points now work correctly (again?) with the IDS (back?) in place. Is it just a coincidence? In the words of the old King James, "I trow not."
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From: Charleston, SC
RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
The shift points worked before...it just made noise.
Everyone knows you don't print RPM shift points based on noise.. it's based on engine speed, load etc. None of that changed...just the noise.
Bean counters....at least you're consistant...lol
lp
Everyone knows you don't print RPM shift points based on noise.. it's based on engine speed, load etc. None of that changed...just the noise.
Bean counters....at least you're consistant...lol
lp
ORIGINAL: glens
Decidedly unauthoritarian conjecture. But look how, by all reports, the printed shift points now work correctly (again?) with the IDS (back?) in place. Is it just a coincidence? In the words of the old King James, "I trow not."
Decidedly unauthoritarian conjecture. But look how, by all reports, the printed shift points now work correctly (again?) with the IDS (back?) in place. Is it just a coincidence? In the words of the old King James, "I trow not."
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From: Indy area
RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
A couple of points about your posts in general.
First, you don't need to quote anything if you're immediately following the post you're answering. Especially if you aren't addressing something specific within it. Even then, you should edit it to reflect just the point you want to address.
Second, it makes no sense whatsoever to reply above a quoted portion, whether you're referring to anything in it or not. The purpose of quoting stuff is to remind the author what they said, or anyone else what the author said. Then you make your point relative to it. The way you do it, one must scroll down to get "caught up", then scroll back up to see what you had to say about it. Granted, you're definitely not the first to make that mistake. I really, really wonder where the hell that convention got started. It's quite maddening, really, to follow a discussion in reverse order.
First, you don't need to quote anything if you're immediately following the post you're answering. Especially if you aren't addressing something specific within it. Even then, you should edit it to reflect just the point you want to address.
Second, it makes no sense whatsoever to reply above a quoted portion, whether you're referring to anything in it or not. The purpose of quoting stuff is to remind the author what they said, or anyone else what the author said. Then you make your point relative to it. The way you do it, one must scroll down to get "caught up", then scroll back up to see what you had to say about it. Granted, you're definitely not the first to make that mistake. I really, really wonder where the hell that convention got started. It's quite maddening, really, to follow a discussion in reverse order.
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RE: What is a Isolated Drive System and What does it do?
There is one good thing about the nay sayers keeping people confussed about the facts. While some people try to sort out whether they are worth it or not, the suppliers haven't been totally swamped and can still get them out in a reasonable amount of time to those that have decided. You don't have to like the IDS or even believe it works if that is what floats your boat. I just wouldn't keep holding my breath hoping MOCO is going to do much else about this.
