IDS problem
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RE: IDS problem
ORIGINAL: Gutman
Dream on, It wasn' Ford who knocked Toyota off the most reliable list, it was Honda. I think Harley should replace ALL the Evolution engines with 96" Twin Cams because they run so much smoother.
Dell doesn't give yoou a new computer every time they introduce something new. Just admit you have installed an upgraded part on your 2007 bike and are satisfied with the results.
Dream on, It wasn' Ford who knocked Toyota off the most reliable list, it was Honda. I think Harley should replace ALL the Evolution engines with 96" Twin Cams because they run so much smoother.
Dell doesn't give yoou a new computer every time they introduce something new. Just admit you have installed an upgraded part on your 2007 bike and are satisfied with the results.
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From: North East
RE: IDS problem
To your surprize a lot of guys dont want them. You may have had a clattering 07 but your the minority, many more 07s had no issue and preform great, I had 2 of the no clatter bikes. IDS is a good fix for clatter bikes, but why would anyone want to pay 300.00 to add a wear out part to a solid design when you dont have issues? It will also not be good to put it on bikes whose owners boost the power levels a bunch cause it will chew up the rubber bumpers in it after awhile of fast take offs. IDS is a good band-aid if you have a clatter bike but useless on one that doesn't.
Of cousre many guys don't want the IDS. They didn't want the EVO, the TC88 and EFI. Not surprised.
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From: North East
RE: IDS problem
quote:To your surprize a lot of guys dont want them. You may have had a clattering 07 but your the minority, many more 07s had no issue and preform great, I had 2 of the no clatter bikes. IDS is a good fix for clatter bikes, but why would anyone want to pay 300.00 to add a wear out part to a solid design when you dont have issues? It will also not be good to put it on bikes whose owners boost the power levels a bunch cause it will chew up the rubber bumpers in it after awhile of fast take offs. IDS is a good band-aid if you have a clatter bike but useless on one that doesn't.
Of cousre many guys don't want the IDS. They didn't want the EVO, the TC88 and EFI. Not surprised.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Cave
RE: IDS problem
Installing the IDS all but eliminated the whine and this bike now is the smoothest riding bike at 60-65mph/6th gear I have ever owned.
Coming off an 04 fatboy with pipes, and cams high speed was painful, but the new stock bike is so sweet at highway speed I hate to mess it up.
Thanks
Road Warrior
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While I love my IDS drive on my 07, I wasn't nearly as botheren by the clatter as the 5th gear whine. The bike is now way smoother , but the Whine is still there, that they should fix as a factory recall .
Tourer
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From: Dallas, TX
RE: IDS problem
I installed mine a week ago and no gearing changes except I now can get it into 6th at a lower speed if I want and no extra noises. If you are a perfectionist, I think you would find the IDS a perfect enhancement to your bike. Install it yourself and you know it's done perfectly, too. That's what I did. Make sure you have some axle grease, a torque wrench, a service manual, a 36mm socket, a belt tension checker tool from HD, isopropyl alcohol and some drinkable alcohol and you're good to go!
Perfect!
Perfect!
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Warrington England
RE: IDS problem
You'r lucky they don't even offer this part for the 07 Dynas or Softails with the same 6 speed.
Cheers,Graham.
Cheers,Graham.
ORIGINAL: Phins74
The problem is I now know why they are stock on the '08's. I just had one put on my '07 Road King. Very nice. It allows you to shift according to the owners manual without chattering like crazy. It has smothed the bike out very nicely. The problem is the MOCO should step up and put them on all of the '07's. However my guys at Seminole Harley in Sanford did what they could to make me a happy customer. Thanks guys!!
The problem is I now know why they are stock on the '08's. I just had one put on my '07 Road King. Very nice. It allows you to shift according to the owners manual without chattering like crazy. It has smothed the bike out very nicely. The problem is the MOCO should step up and put them on all of the '07's. However my guys at Seminole Harley in Sanford did what they could to make me a happy customer. Thanks guys!!
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RE: IDS problem
From one perfectionist to another.... I can only speak from personal experience. I installed SE (performance) mufflers SE A/C, SERT and had bike dynotuned. The whine was reduced becasuse the louder mufflers covered it up. Second step was to change tranny fluid to Amsoil 75w140, further reduction in whine in 1st and 5th. Last step I installed IDS and whine is so reduced I can't hear it with the radio off riding next to a cement road construction barrier.
It doesn't change the gearing but it does make the 6 speed gearing available at lower speeds without clattering/whine noises. Some will disagree regarding it eliminating the whine. That wasn't my experience. I'm planning a cross country trip and now for the first time in 13 months since I got my Ultra I feel confident I have a bike that I want to ride on that trip.
I've had zero issues with my bike but found the whine annoying. No one has to agree or disagree. That's just my opinion.
It doesn't change the gearing but it does make the 6 speed gearing available at lower speeds without clattering/whine noises. Some will disagree regarding it eliminating the whine. That wasn't my experience. I'm planning a cross country trip and now for the first time in 13 months since I got my Ultra I feel confident I have a bike that I want to ride on that trip.
I've had zero issues with my bike but found the whine annoying. No one has to agree or disagree. That's just my opinion.
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RE: IDS problem
Its all in your mind if you think the ids is reducing gear whine but thats ok. Gear whine is caused by the cut of the 1st and 5th gears being different from the other 4. I had a 08, with IDS and guess what it whined. They all whine, it does get better and quiter with miles as everything wears in, but the ids doesnt reduce anything except harshness when you get close to lugging speed. As to longevity of the rubber thats a wait and see. I feel that since harley tells you it must be checked at regular intervals they must feel it can or will wear out at some point.
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From: Boise Idaho
RE: IDS problem
I've listened to you guys going on an onabout this IDS system for quite awhile, my bike was very noisey in 3rd, 4rth and 5th, I almost spent the money on the IDS afterreading post after post here. At my 1000 mile service I installed 75-110 SevereGear gear lube instead of 20-50 motor oiland the noises are almost completely gone for an investment of about $12. It is so much more quite you'd have thought they put in a differant transmission at the 1000 mile service.
This is an alternative to the $300IDS upgrade, it really did work in my 07Road King, try it before you spend the big bucks.
This is an alternative to the $300IDS upgrade, it really did work in my 07Road King, try it before you spend the big bucks.