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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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This might sound stupid (no flames, please!) but from which direction was the wind blowing and at what speed?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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There's just way to many variables in this question and accident to try and give you an answer. You've got to be able to consider things like the what the debris was made of and the weight of the debris, what the whether conditions were (yes a strong enough wind could contirbute to which direction debris goes). I think you're looking at a question that even an experienced accident investigator couldn't give you. I'll assume this is all based off of your accident that you had, my assumption would be, and I'm not attacking you, that since you left the scene and there was no on scene report or witnesses, that any lawsuit may not be very successful for you.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Great point... I never thought about that!... Any idea how to find the archives regarding weather on August 15th @6:35pm in 94514 Zip code? I know it was hot as hell... probably no wind, but need to know.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Was there ever a report taken about your accident by a law enforcement officer? I would take a look at that report and if there isn't one I would try to a least get in touch with your localPD or SO and talk with an accident investigator. They maybe able to answer your question better then any of us could.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Just checked the Police report... Clear, Daylight, Dry. No unusual conditions. That's all the CHP said.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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I am an accident reconstruction expert. Issues to consider are weather, any marks on the roadway, angle of damage thrust on each vehicle, debris location from impact point. vehicle rest position after collision, vehicle movement after collision, and occupant dynamics if cycle involved
It can be much more complicated than one might think.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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I know there are a lot of variables. I wanted to see some input. I got what I wanted and I'll let y'all know what happens.

 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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You can'tplace blame on one vehicle or the other based on final placement of the debris. It would depend on where each vehicle was at the time of impact, and which vehicle (or perhaps both?) was moving toward the other's lane while traveling down the road, i.e. the sideways velocity of each vehicle at the moment of impact. If an item travels towards a stationary wall at an angle, it will bounce off that wall at an equivalent angle in the other direction-- sort of like when we played Pong on the early computers. Of course, neither vehicle was stationary (like the paddle in Pong) so it would benearly impossibleto determine the dynamics of the situation. If you've got a lawyer trying to place blame based on where the debris did or didn't fall, then he'd better be calling up NASA to do the calcs, although I doubt they'd be able to do it either. Like someone already said, too many variables and way too many unknowns. Sounds like someone's trying to create a legal loophole to me, but that dog don't hunt! In my opinion weather had nothing to do with it, as the forces involved in the impact would have been far greater than anything the weather could have done. Now if all it did was rip the sleeve off your nylonwindbreaker, hopefully without ripping off your arm, then the wind might blow the sleeve wherever, but if hardware was displaced, then it would have been positioned by the impact. Let us know how it turns out.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Seems that if the debris would all go to one side of the road if it was hitting the road on the outside of the crown.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Seems that if the debris would all go to one side of the road if it was hitting the road on the outside of the crown.
Not that simple, bro. If you were in a lane and throw a tennis ball straight down that lane, it should bounce toward the low side of the crown, like you suggest. But, if you throw the tennis ball at an angle toward the crown it will bounce into the other lane. Too many variables, like the weight, smoothness, shape, etc. of each part, not to mention was the part rolling or spinning or both when it hit the road, as well as the velocity and direction when it hit. Just too many variables and unknowns.
 
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