Do different headers matter?
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Do different headers matter?
I know there are many different mufflers and different performance levels that come with them. My question is, do the different headers matter as far as performance goes. I'm speaking of the "True dual" headers. I have SuperTrapp mufflers on my 08 SG and the bike is having a BB kit installed. I like the open look of the true dual setup and was thinking of having it done. V&H, Rinehart, which one or does it matter. No need to comment on my mufflers as I like them and won't change them.
Gary
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RE: Do different headers matter?
Definitely a difference. The true duals not only give you the cleaner look but reduced heat for the driver on the right side. You also loose some torque. I run the stock headers with slip-ons...if you want the best performance go with a 2 into 1 set up like the dd fat cats or something.
Tourer
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RE: Do different headers matter?
The factory head pipes are very restrictive due to the fact that they are a 2 into 1 system that hat a tee off the side of the rear cylinder pipe. Thats why 80% comes out the right side and only 20% out of left. Many say that true duels loose torque.I have the same if not more torque than I had with the stock head pipes and the sound is amazing. Now I have stereo Harley sound!
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RE: Do different headers matter?
I agree with Red E Glide, if I did lose torque I don't notice it and when I added the Thundermax it came back with a boost. Now I have the Harley sound with true duels that I wanted, I figure if I need more torque I'll do motor work, but that sound is priceless.
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RE: Do different headers matter?
I'm not downing duals if that's what you're getting at...but the numbers will show you that duals will loose torque...you may not notice it depending on you application but...
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RE: Do different headers matter?
Agree just about any where you look at performance the TRUE DUALS will reduce lower end torque but not really enough to really notice (Ck out http://www.nightrider.com/)...
If you're looking for performance then you need to look at 2-into-1 systems
If you like looks and even sound and cutting down the rear cylinder heat issue then 2-into-2 (True Duals) will do it... There are many out there V&H - Samsom - Bub they all make a nice True Dual Set-up
The OEM Set-up is a very good proven system that does it job well...
If you're looking for performance then you need to look at 2-into-1 systems
If you like looks and even sound and cutting down the rear cylinder heat issue then 2-into-2 (True Duals) will do it... There are many out there V&H - Samsom - Bub they all make a nice True Dual Set-up
The OEM Set-up is a very good proven system that does it job well...
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RE: Do different headers matter?
I definitely could tell that I lost bottom end when I added duals. I added a DFO to enrichen the fuel circuit and made some lollipop baffles to add some back pressure. After some tweaking, it runs pretty darn good.
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RE: Do different headers matter?
Reality check. The factory headpipes are NOT "very restrictive". The factory could build true duals for less money than the crossover system it uses but the bike would lose power.
I'm not saying true duals are useless. Some people like the looks and many like the sound, lets just keep things in perspective.
my .02
I'm not saying true duals are useless. Some people like the looks and many like the sound, lets just keep things in perspective.
my .02
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RE: Do different headers matter?
think everyone missed the question, or maybe i'm wrong but i think what he was asking is .... is there a difference in which true dual header pipes you use or are all true dual header pipes created equal
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RE: Do different headers matter?
ORIGINAL: 379 GLIDE
think everyone missed the question, or maybe i'm wrong but i think what he was asking is .... is there a difference in which true dual header pipes you use or are all true dual header pipes created equal
think everyone missed the question, or maybe i'm wrong but i think what he was asking is .... is there a difference in which true dual header pipes you use or are all true dual header pipes created equal
Jim