BAD GAS???
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Cruiser
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From: South Austin Texas
RE: BAD GAS???
Put in new plugs today. Ran great for about ten seconds, then back to ****. I think there is still water in the bottom of the tank. Its either that or there's a problem with the rear injector.
Tomorrow I'm draining the gas - again. Glad I didn't fill it up this time. Then I'm going to see if I can take the back of the tank loose so I can lift it upand get more (hopefully all of the)gas out. Also will try to locate some ethanol to put in the bottom before adding more gas.
If all that fails I'll hook the Thundermax up to the computer and look at warranty readings and see if I'm getting any error codes.
Dealership said they'd pick it up on Monday and that they'd warranty the work which surprised me if it is in fact bad gas. They think maybe its not and of course there is that possiblity. In fact it could be a lot of other thingsbut I still think, because it was running fine until after I filled it up thatit points to gas.I've got a dead day and I can't ride so I may as well have another look at it.
Tomorrow I'm draining the gas - again. Glad I didn't fill it up this time. Then I'm going to see if I can take the back of the tank loose so I can lift it upand get more (hopefully all of the)gas out. Also will try to locate some ethanol to put in the bottom before adding more gas.
If all that fails I'll hook the Thundermax up to the computer and look at warranty readings and see if I'm getting any error codes.
Dealership said they'd pick it up on Monday and that they'd warranty the work which surprised me if it is in fact bad gas. They think maybe its not and of course there is that possiblity. In fact it could be a lot of other thingsbut I still think, because it was running fine until after I filled it up thatit points to gas.I've got a dead day and I can't ride so I may as well have another look at it.
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RE: BAD GAS???
I've had water in the tank before an it can be a real PITA. Removed mine when draining tank and removing it to do some wiring. Poured mine out from the cross over on the front. Had about 8 oz in the tank. Filled mine back with clean gas and water remover to suck up any additional water stuck in the bottom.
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RE: BAD GAS???
My bet is still the crank positioning switch. I know you may think it is the gas, and I thought the same thing when it happened to me because it happened just a couple minutes after filling up.
But the way you are explaining the way it is running it sounds exactly how mine sounded, it would start and run for a second and then start bucking and coughing and then cut out. I could restart it and it would do the whole thing all over again.
Keep us posted, and good luck!!!!
But the way you are explaining the way it is running it sounds exactly how mine sounded, it would start and run for a second and then start bucking and coughing and then cut out. I could restart it and it would do the whole thing all over again.
Keep us posted, and good luck!!!!
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RE: BAD GAS???
Okay, I got the gas tank off. I didn’t intend to take it off. That’s just how it worked out.
I was following Glide’s idea of taking the back tank bolt loose and raising it up to be sure I got all the gas drained out. Problem is, the ignition switch is close enough that you can’t lift the tank very far even after you pull slack in the vent line and take the electrical to the rear of the bike loose.
So I took the two front tank bolts on each side off and then I was lifting up and trying to get as much gas out as possible when I felt something give and the tank came off in my hands.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/3FABA39E9DDA4DDEBAEFE99B812C7C58.jpg[/IMG]
Turns out, I’d broken the main fuel line off at the bracket. Looks like an easy enough part to replace. Hopefully it isn’t too expensive.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/77C3110104D84DA79125A35D9C47AE25.jpg[/IMG]
With the tank off I was able to empty the rest of the fuel into a large stainless steel bowl. I could see right off that the fuel looked milky so I knew I’d found the problem.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/D3BAC9D8EAAA4F61A028882A0E7FF345.jpg[/IMG]
Now of course I’ll have to wait until the dealership opens in the morning to pick up the part I need and put her back together. I have no doubt now however that the problem was the gasoline. What to do about trying to recover my money from 7/11 is another matter. The money is not that big a deal. But my time and aggravation are another matter.
I don’t expect that I’ll ever spend another cent with them ever again. Even if they compensate me in some fashion – which I doubt they will. Even if I’m in the middle of the desert and they are the only place in a hundred miles.
I feel the same way about Pep Boys… but that’s another story.
I was following Glide’s idea of taking the back tank bolt loose and raising it up to be sure I got all the gas drained out. Problem is, the ignition switch is close enough that you can’t lift the tank very far even after you pull slack in the vent line and take the electrical to the rear of the bike loose.
So I took the two front tank bolts on each side off and then I was lifting up and trying to get as much gas out as possible when I felt something give and the tank came off in my hands.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/3FABA39E9DDA4DDEBAEFE99B812C7C58.jpg[/IMG]
Turns out, I’d broken the main fuel line off at the bracket. Looks like an easy enough part to replace. Hopefully it isn’t too expensive.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/77C3110104D84DA79125A35D9C47AE25.jpg[/IMG]
With the tank off I was able to empty the rest of the fuel into a large stainless steel bowl. I could see right off that the fuel looked milky so I knew I’d found the problem.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/D3BAC9D8EAAA4F61A028882A0E7FF345.jpg[/IMG]
Now of course I’ll have to wait until the dealership opens in the morning to pick up the part I need and put her back together. I have no doubt now however that the problem was the gasoline. What to do about trying to recover my money from 7/11 is another matter. The money is not that big a deal. But my time and aggravation are another matter.
I don’t expect that I’ll ever spend another cent with them ever again. Even if they compensate me in some fashion – which I doubt they will. Even if I’m in the middle of the desert and they are the only place in a hundred miles.
I feel the same way about Pep Boys… but that’s another story.
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RE: BAD GAS???
Glade to hear you got it figured out, but its to bad you had to go through all the aggravation to figure it all out. As for getting any compensation from 7-11 I wouldn't even try. Thats not worth the hassle. I'd just take the gas you got in there and dump it on the counter and walk out.
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RE: BAD GAS???
AustinRider, glad to hear that your problem is on the run.
Good thing now it will be easier to correct in the future.
It may not even be worthbothering with7-11, I wouldn't figure that they would be stand up enough to getbehind your bad gasto even buy you onenewtank ofgas for the bike. Let alone compensate for any of your additional troubles and expense.
Good thing now it will be easier to correct in the future.
It may not even be worthbothering with7-11, I wouldn't figure that they would be stand up enough to getbehind your bad gasto even buy you onenewtank ofgas for the bike. Let alone compensate for any of your additional troubles and expense.
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Okay, I got the gas tank off. I didn’t intend to take it off. That’s just how it worked out.
I was following Glide’s idea of taking the back tank bolt loose and raising it up to be sure I got all the gas drained out. Problem is, the ignition switch is close enough that you can’t lift the tank very far even after you pull slack in the vent line and take the electrical to the rear of the bike loose.
So I took the two front tank bolts on each side off and then I was lifting up and trying to get as much gas out as possible when I felt something give and the tank came off in my hands.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/3FABA39E9DDA4DDEBAEFE99B812C7C58.jpg[/IMG]
Turns out, I’d broken the main fuel line off at the bracket. Looks like an easy enough part to replace. Hopefully it isn’t too expensive.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/77C3110104D84DA79125A35D9C47AE25.jpg[/IMG]
With the tank off I was able to empty the rest of the fuel into a large stainless steel bowl. I could see right off that the fuel looked milky so I knew I’d found the problem.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/D3BAC9D8EAAA4F61A028882A0E7FF345.jpg[/IMG]
Now of course I’ll have to wait until the dealership opens in the morning to pick up the part I need and put her back together. I have no doubt now however that the problem was the gasoline. What to do about trying to recover my money from 7/11 is another matter. The money is not that big a deal. But my time and aggravation are another matter.
I don’t expect that I’ll ever spend another cent with them ever again. Even if they compensate me in some fashion – which I doubt they will. Even if I’m in the middle of the desert and they are the only place in a hundred miles.
I feel the same way about Pep Boys… but that’s another story.
Okay, I got the gas tank off. I didn’t intend to take it off. That’s just how it worked out.
I was following Glide’s idea of taking the back tank bolt loose and raising it up to be sure I got all the gas drained out. Problem is, the ignition switch is close enough that you can’t lift the tank very far even after you pull slack in the vent line and take the electrical to the rear of the bike loose.
So I took the two front tank bolts on each side off and then I was lifting up and trying to get as much gas out as possible when I felt something give and the tank came off in my hands.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/3FABA39E9DDA4DDEBAEFE99B812C7C58.jpg[/IMG]
Turns out, I’d broken the main fuel line off at the bracket. Looks like an easy enough part to replace. Hopefully it isn’t too expensive.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/77C3110104D84DA79125A35D9C47AE25.jpg[/IMG]
With the tank off I was able to empty the rest of the fuel into a large stainless steel bowl. I could see right off that the fuel looked milky so I knew I’d found the problem.
[IMG]local://upfiles/45797/D3BAC9D8EAAA4F61A028882A0E7FF345.jpg[/IMG]
Now of course I’ll have to wait until the dealership opens in the morning to pick up the part I need and put her back together. I have no doubt now however that the problem was the gasoline. What to do about trying to recover my money from 7/11 is another matter. The money is not that big a deal. But my time and aggravation are another matter.
I don’t expect that I’ll ever spend another cent with them ever again. Even if they compensate me in some fashion – which I doubt they will. Even if I’m in the middle of the desert and they are the only place in a hundred miles.
I feel the same way about Pep Boys… but that’s another story.
