SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
Road Master
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From: REPUBLIC of TEXAS
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
i'm no brainiac but i do know this. the indy dude down the road who does dynos has noticed that quite a few customers have been coming back (after being happy with original results from earlier this year and last year). claims that previous maps are going to $h%t because of changing gas/ ethanol or whatever. makes auto tune look like the tweak of the future . i'm hung up on this and have a few pm's out regarding DTT and t max and bunging out an 06 exhaust. i cant believe i'm this flippin' patient.
maybe just mental patient
i dont know what slip-ons i have but i hate 'em.
edit. the dyno guy is a big SERT fan.
maybe just mental patient
i dont know what slip-ons i have but i hate 'em.edit. the dyno guy is a big SERT fan.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Williamston, SC
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
PM shooter 64, he will give you a good price on the Tmax and any info you may need on them.
Iinstalled mine a while back, now the bike jumps, sounds great, better throttle response,and no pinging or dyno. With any system you put in where you can adjust it, there is a learning curve with it, then you get to have the fun of playing around with it. I enjoy trying different things to see what I can get out of the bike as far as performance and economy, I can tune it to my spects and not anyone else's.
If I need to go back to the dealer for any reason, I pull the Tmax and put back in the ECM. For my money it was a Thundermax Auto-Tune, Zipper's is super at customer satisfaction also. I didn't buy mine directly from them, Phil at Zipper's said " not a problem, now how may I help you?"
I searched for months all over the forum, talked with anyone who would talk asking their opinion, and read all I could get my hands on anywhere about all the different tuners, the Tmax has been the best money I've spent so far.
Last thing I heard on the forum is Zipper's should have the Tmax ready for the 08 by or around April.Just my 2 cent worth, mind you, all the tuners have their good point and bad ones too, no one system is the magical cure all. It just depends on what you are looking far.
Good luck and be safe, hope this helps in some small way.
Iinstalled mine a while back, now the bike jumps, sounds great, better throttle response,and no pinging or dyno. With any system you put in where you can adjust it, there is a learning curve with it, then you get to have the fun of playing around with it. I enjoy trying different things to see what I can get out of the bike as far as performance and economy, I can tune it to my spects and not anyone else's.
If I need to go back to the dealer for any reason, I pull the Tmax and put back in the ECM. For my money it was a Thundermax Auto-Tune, Zipper's is super at customer satisfaction also. I didn't buy mine directly from them, Phil at Zipper's said " not a problem, now how may I help you?"
I searched for months all over the forum, talked with anyone who would talk asking their opinion, and read all I could get my hands on anywhere about all the different tuners, the Tmax has been the best money I've spent so far.
Last thing I heard on the forum is Zipper's should have the Tmax ready for the 08 by or around April.Just my 2 cent worth, mind you, all the tuners have their good point and bad ones too, no one system is the magical cure all. It just depends on what you are looking far.
Good luck and be safe, hope this helps in some small way.
Road Master
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From: Niagara Falls, NY
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
Izzi, sorry got descratged, I mean distracted,from the back of the slip-ons.............
What you are doing is the best thing reasearch, more research. The best thing is.... as far as I am concerned there is no 1 correct finalize answer. What might work for me, is another person's receipe for diaseter.
What you are doing is the best thing reasearch, more research. The best thing is.... as far as I am concerned there is no 1 correct finalize answer. What might work for me, is another person's receipe for diaseter.
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Greensburg Pa
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
ORIGINAL: mcline_1968
Is there anybody out there that can provide a good argument that a SERT w/dyno tune would be a better choice than a T-Max w/auto tune for my 08 Ultra.
The bike is bone stock w/the exception on SE II race mufflers and a SE HF AC Kit.
This is the worst running bike I have ever owned and I am hoping to get big improvements with which ever route I decide to go with.
Comparative cost would be about the same....
I am leaning way over to the T-MAX and that is why I am just probing for anyone with a good reason why the SERT may be better.
Thanks in advance for all the input and advice.
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Is there anybody out there that can provide a good argument that a SERT w/dyno tune would be a better choice than a T-Max w/auto tune for my 08 Ultra.
The bike is bone stock w/the exception on SE II race mufflers and a SE HF AC Kit.
This is the worst running bike I have ever owned and I am hoping to get big improvements with which ever route I decide to go with.
Comparative cost would be about the same....
I am leaning way over to the T-MAX and that is why I am just probing for anyone with a good reason why the SERT may be better.
Thanks in advance for all the input and advice.
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great comments by many...ill add one more thought... if all you have is slip ons and filter, the sert comes with maps screamin eagle mods.... that would get you pretty close... then when you get some more ching, order up the HQ pro fueler... you now have a set up that will go as advanced as you want ....
when Kevin was tunning my scoot, i would take the scoot out for a ride, not hearing ANY ping!, when i got back the data logged on the run would SHOW exactly which cell had knock and how much was retarded... made me a believer...
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From: TX
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
ORIGINAL: hotpursuit
great comments by many...ill add one more thought... if all you have is slip ons and filter, the sert comes with maps screamin eagle mods.... that would get you pretty close... then when you get some more ching, order up the HQ pro fueler... you now have a set up that will go as advanced as you want ....
when Kevin was tunning my scoot, i would take the scoot out for a ride, not hearing ANY ping!, when i got back the data logged on the run would SHOW exactly which cell had knock and how much was retarded... made me a believer...
great comments by many...ill add one more thought... if all you have is slip ons and filter, the sert comes with maps screamin eagle mods.... that would get you pretty close... then when you get some more ching, order up the HQ pro fueler... you now have a set up that will go as advanced as you want ....
when Kevin was tunning my scoot, i would take the scoot out for a ride, not hearing ANY ping!, when i got back the data logged on the run would SHOW exactly which cell had knock and how much was retarded... made me a believer...
The HQ ProTuner will extend the SERT capabilities by adding closed loop afr managment.
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Greensburg Pa
RE: SERT vs. T-Max w/auto tune
ORIGINAL: PhilM
Rob ~ what Kevin was using was the DTT TwinScan II+...
The HQ ProTuner will extend the SERT capabilities by adding closed loop afr managment.
ORIGINAL: hotpursuit
great comments by many...ill add one more thought... if all you have is slip ons and filter, the sert comes with maps screamin eagle mods.... that would get you pretty close... then when you get some more ching, order up the HQ pro fueler... you now have a set up that will go as advanced as you want ....
when Kevin was tunning my scoot, i would take the scoot out for a ride, not hearing ANY ping!, when i got back the data logged on the run would SHOW exactly which cell had knock and how much was retarded... made me a believer...
great comments by many...ill add one more thought... if all you have is slip ons and filter, the sert comes with maps screamin eagle mods.... that would get you pretty close... then when you get some more ching, order up the HQ pro fueler... you now have a set up that will go as advanced as you want ....
when Kevin was tunning my scoot, i would take the scoot out for a ride, not hearing ANY ping!, when i got back the data logged on the run would SHOW exactly which cell had knock and how much was retarded... made me a believer...
The HQ ProTuner will extend the SERT capabilities by adding closed loop afr managment.
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This is all GREAT information. I really enjoy reading about all of your experiences and trials.
It is really great to have this kind of information availabale to help make good educated decisions.
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This is all GREAT information. I really enjoy reading about all of your experiences and trials.
It is really great to have this kind of information availabale to help make good educated decisions.
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